Tameka "Tiny" Cottle pregnant again
A source close to Tameka "Tiny" Cottle has confirmed that Tiny is pregnant again with T.I.'s baby. The sex of the baby is unknown. The baby would be the couple's second child together. Tiny delivered a stillborn baby girl this past March and the couple were determined to have another baby.
Meanwhile, T.I., real name Clifford Harris, was denied bond in a federal magistrate court today. In attendance at the proceedings were Tiny, two of T.I.'s other baby mamas and all of T.I.'s children except for King who remained at home. Tiny, who was arrested on marijuana and Ecstasy possession on Saturday, took King to visit his father in jail yesterday. I'm told the first thing T.I.P. did was apologize to Tiny.
My source informed me that King is still traumatized from the raid which took place at T.I.'s home in College Park on Saturday. ATF agents simultaneously broke down the front door while smashing out windows in the back of the house and tossing stun grenades into the house. King, 3, was in a downstairs room playing at the time of the raid. The other children had just left the home to go to acting class. I'm told T.I.'s 15-year-old nephew ran out the back door and was tackled and stomped by ATF agents.
While agents found T.I.'s gun collection in his bedroom safe, no drugs were found in the home. Many have questioned why T.I. had such an arsenal in the first place. The answer is simple: boys love guns. My brother, Ray, has been an avid gun collector since his teens so I have no problem believing that. My brother obtained his license to carry a concealed weapon at the age of 18. He quickly amassed a collection of guns much larger than T.I.'s collection. Today, my brother, who never attended college, owns a GNC store in Dunnedin, Florida (a suburb of Tampa). My brother has never shot anyone.
It's easy to question why T.I. was buying machine guns and silencers, but what gun collector (my brother included) doesn't own a machine gun? It doesn't mean they intend to start a war. I imagine it would be difficult for a boy like T.I. to turn down the chance to own a machine gun. It doesn't make him a bad person.
Family friends state the bodyguard, whose initials are C.W., [People, I know what CW for confidential witness means. This man's first name starts with a C. and his last name starts with a W. His initials are ALSO C.W., so please stop emailing me about this] had a license to purchase certain weapons legally and offered to purchase guns for T.I. from the moment he started working for T.I. in July. That should have been a red flag. The family source said T.I. is not doing well in federal custody. "This is very hard on T.I.P.," said the source.
134 comments:
She needs to take her kids and run!! I know it will be hard because he is the father of her children, but the next time she may not be so lucky. I wish parents would start thinking about the children and not of themselves. The children did not ask to be here.
cw stands for cooperating witness (in regards to the affadavit), not the bodyguard's initals.
also, if tiny is pregnant, what on earth is she doing with weed and ectasy in her possession (ajc.com) during her arrest?!?!! that is a fool!!!
"I imagine it would be difficult for a boy like T.I. to turn down the chance to own a machine gun. It doesn't make him a bad person."
omg, Sandra I am so mad at you right now. I have to come back later after clear my thoughts.
thanks sandra for the correction. this is just all a mess. i mean, what are you doing? yes, i am sure he had no intent (even with him also purchasing silencers...) but you are a HIGHLY respected hip hop artist, in a movie with TWO academy award winners in it in less then a month....why get yourself in these situations when you have all the talent and money in the world....was buffing up your gun collection even worth it? and furthermore, corey better watch out b/c he was purchasing guns for other people as well....he better get into the witness protection program and fast!
Sandra,I hope that none of the things included in this posting will cause problems for TIP. I will definetly keep their family in my prayers. This was a setup though. The info that some are reporting is that bond wasn't denied it was postponed until friday(bond hearing). This was per TI atty. Thanks for the update!
Wow Sandra, Tiny better give you an exclusive for this girl. You ridin for them folks hard. Hell TI need to be calling you collect right now.
Why should he apologize to Tiny? She knew what was up and she was the one carrying the stash. Maybe she has earned that damn wedding now. Poor chile.
Are we supposed to feel sorry for the nephew who got stomped? No matter how much boys like guns, when boy is a felon boy's nephew is possibly gonna get stomped if boy has a gun collection. Boys children are possibly gonna get traumatized by Feds busting the door down. He's a grown man. He knew the consequences. Now man up and deal with it.
I see these are your people's and that's cool, but wrong is wrong. Good luck to all involved on getting some sleep tonight.
"It's easy to question why T.I. was buying machine guns and silencers, but what gun collector (my brother included) doesn't own a machine gun? "
Where am I right now? Are you serious? Right now Im at work laughing... thinkin am I the only person who finds it odd they have machine guns? Ummmm machine guns!!
Ridiculous... Who is he RAMBO?
I agree w/ you Sandra about boys and their toys (i.e. guns) My Father is the same way. He had many illegal guns throughout the years and at one point owned a chin of pawn shops, so he had an 'arsenal' too.
It's unfortunate, what happened to and in front of T.I's kids and family. I hope he gets bail and is out soon. Sending prayers and positive thoughts T.I & Tinys way.. their kids & family too.
Oh and how many kids does TI have, with how many mothers? Im very surious as he seems to be creating a football team at such a young age... just an observation :P
How forgiving and non-judgmental you are being (even making excuses for him). I wish you were this way when it comes to others. I've seen you massacre others who were accused of much less.
"I loves T.I., God knows I do" But what was he thinking?! He's stated plenty of times that if he gets in trouble again the judge is going to put him under the jail! And I agree with missmargaret. You got to put your kids first. What if the kids were taken away from them? And at Sandra, maybe your brother does have alot of guns, but is he a 7 time felon?
I read the 11 page affidavit...and that did sound fishy to begin with but Tip should know better. But, we are all human. How could this dude have bought 25 guns for TIP and his crew over the last 18 months but had only worked with him since July? His eagerness should've really been a red flag. And then he was describing where his safe was, how to get in there, to make sure they got all that in the search warrant. No doubt he was coerced. I heard that this guy was popped earlier this year on some kind of charge and in exchange for his freedom, he decided to help the Feds get TIP. It's sad, it really is. I also read in his last interview, that he wasn't going to tempt fate anymore with having kids, b/c of what happ'd. He didn't want to take the chance that it would happen again. But, I guess they had a change of heart. My thoughts and prayers are with them all.
Sandra, I've come to your site for awhile but only now felt compelled to sign-up. I never posted anonymously though. I really like what you do here.
Also, I thought he only had 3 baby mamas? Deja's Mom, Bubba and Domani's Mom and now Tiny?
I pray that they all learn from this and become wiser and stronger in their dealings and their lives.
This really saddens me to see this go down, ti was another guy who made it out and somehow is back locked down, I just wish people would think, i mean damn dude asked a LEGAL gun dealer, I just wish these guys would just take a step back they have made money and have power,, and still can't leave that lifestyle alone, your already not suppose to be anything or have anything, and one quick slip up can take it right away, i feel sorry for tiny to these guys don't realize the effect their choices have on people around them!! I hope he gets off, ti was trying to get his self together but the devil is so sneaky you gotta be more careful
I'm just upset that TI has someone new in his camp that he didn't check up on prior to July. I mean he just did an interview telling listeners there was no one new in the camp. And yes, why is carrying ecstasy and green on her and she pregnant. Not smart on either parts.
isn't one of the problems tht he's a convicted felon and as such is not allowed to own weapons or have them in his house?
He knows he cannot legally owned guns, so he risked his freedom to be a gun collector? His hobby was not worth sacrificing for his freedom and family I guess. Bad decision on his part.
And isn't TI a convicted Felon or something like that. Why is the Mike Vick syndrome spreading?
I have nothing against T.I. and hopefully things will work out for him if he didn't commit any crimes but I can't believe people are somewhat defending him having guns when he is a convicted felon. I don't care if boys love guns, the bottom line is he shouldn't have them, let alone unregistered ones. Someone in his position should hire professional security that can carry registered guns to protect him. The other uncool thing was given out the names of the cooperator. Why did you do that? It makes no sense. Is it so that someone can hurt him? Let's not blame him for all of this. If T.I. wasn't doing wrong he would not be in this situation.
Also, if Tiny is pregnant why did she have weed and ecstasy on her?
@bird he probably apologized because majority of the time, the woman is trying to tell the man that he fucking up or dont do that, just cuz she with him does not mean she likes what he does, or for that matter doesn't mean she can control his actions, I happened to know first hand , sometimes people get hooked up with the wrong guys, and you try to tell em and they dont listen until it is to late, maybe she was begging him not to do it this time or anything you just don't ever know. @ruth i was trying to figure out what does his kids have to do with this?
Oh, I wanted to add...I don't see anything wrong with collecting guns either. For some people, it's just like collecting cars. It's to show off and with the state of hip hop today, it's for bragging rights. I am glad that they were locked away and unreachable by the kids.
I just pray that he realizes he's a target-whether he's on the straight and narrow, or not. They are looking to make an example of him and show the world that in hip hop, everyone's lives imitate their art, and that's not always true. But this just made it easy for that platform, especially when you read the premise for American Gangster...he could've been at the wrong place at the wrong time but something in the kool-aid just ain't sugar here.
I am a TI fan and I wish them all the best, under the circumstances. I know it had to be hard for them to burst in like that. And he's had the guns for awhile so how was he (the nephew) to know that THIS day, the Feds would kick in the door and he'd get stomped. He didn't deserve that. When they come to your house, they kick ass first, and ask ?s later. They have no sympathy, not even for innocent children and babies.
I can't wait for all the facts to be brought forward.
I just read the Affidavit and it says The CW. Doesn't seem to refer to the person's name. The Corey Williams doesn't sound right.
My uncles and male cousins have been collecting riffles and pistols for over 50 years. Not ONE of them has a machine gun and silencer in their arsenal. Something was shady when they (TI included) wanted to purchase these guns without registering them. True gun collectors register their guns. TI was dumb and is paying the price for this dumb move.
I had dinner with Tip, Tiny and C-Rod last summer and after spending a few hours with them, my opinion of their relationship was wreckless. Tip is very talented and yes he came up, but at the end of the day, he's just a hood nigga with long money. Tiny didn't learn from her last unfortunate experience with the weed and pills. I will pray for their children because they are the ones that will suffer. However, Tip now has time to sit back and evaluate his decisions because he will do time. Very unfortunate.
LMAO @ Bird
Let me just say that I feel Tiny's pain on a personal level, I'll leave it at that. All I would say is be patient, keep praying and ride for your man girl. This is the time that TIP will find out who his real friends are, who he can really depend on. If he don't marry her ass after this, I will lose so much respect for this dude. I hope he gets a bond though. They need to be together, especially since she is pregnant again. After that last tragedy this has to be so hard on her. Keep ya head up ...both of you.
Lala Land and Jasmin, Please stop the name calling.
Ruth said...
Where am I right now? Are you serious? Right now Im at work laughing... thinkin am I the only person who finds it odd they have machine guns? Ummmm machine guns!!
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You would have to be a boy to understand why boys of all ages love guns.
you know im all for protection but this was a large amount of guns.....i really can care less....but my issue is this men come from the ghetto, they rep for the ghetto, they talk about getting out of the ghetto but as soon as GOD blesses them with a wonderful gift to get them out of the ghetto they insist on still "being apart" of the ghetto. Rep your hood, do you but sometimes like it or not you truely have to disassociate yourself from people.....it really puzzles me!
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Bree said...
My uncles and male cousins have been collecting riffles and pistols for over 50 years. Not ONE of them has a machine gun and silencer in their arsenal.
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Maybe they couldn't afford them - and I think you have to have a license to purchase them anyway.
Sandra, you're killing me trying to justify why he may have had guns in his possession. I guess it pays to be on your good side. Had it been another indivual you would've been bashing them. I can't believe you're trying to compare him to your brother. Considering what we know about TI and the brief synopsis you gave on your brtther, that's like comparing apples to oranges.
@ Sandra
I am confused...
I am a super fan of T.I. as well but I also realize that everyone is human, having said that I put no man on a pedal stool. Because if you put all your faith in man they will let us down every time. Sandra is no different from anyone else that you bash on your site. You are entitled to your opinion as well as everyone else; however you are making up all the excuses in the world for him and trying to justify his actions but yet just a few weeks ago the kids from Jena 6 couldn't catch a break from you. My thing is in their case at least they are young and have more than one shot @ reforming themselves, but in this situation you have a grown AZZ man that knew he was on probation and still chose to make poor choices and his status is a lot different from the kids in Jena. With the status that he holds in society there really was no cause or reason for his actions. So let's be for real. I mean I am a daily reader and visitor of this site and most times me and you share similar ideas and thoughts on things...but with this issue...I just don't agree that you should be taking up for him but with the Jena 6 they should go to jail because he had been in trouble before. All I am saying is be fair!!!!
Sandra, I have so many mixed feelings about this. I think that you may be right when it comes to boys and their toys however it becomes a huge problem when boys want to mix their toys with their sons and daughters. My biggest problem with the whole Tank Johnson situation wasn't that he had guns but that he had those young babies around the guns in open view. You hear all the time about accidental shootings, kids playing with real guns and that is where the problem lies. And then the place gets raided with the baby inside, scarring that child for life possibly. He will always think about that as he grows up, shaping the type of person he may become. I just wish the best for all involved in this mess.
I'm divided by this entire incident.
First of all, I'm a true fan of T.I., but I am also a realist.
Sandra, please let's look at the facts and not fiction. I don't think anyone has stated that T.I. is a bad person for purchasing guns, that's his constitutional right. However he did make such a poor decision, that you can't blame people for calling him a dumb ass. Why would you jeopardize your freedom, family, and everything you've worked so hard to build to become a gun collector??!! Don't make any excuses for him or try to defend the bad decision which he made.
Now I don't like the fact that the Feds kicked in his door, but hell don't they do that shit in every raid?? Who has ever known the Feds to come to a convicted felon's house knocking on the door?
He does have a criminal past and a violent criminal past at that. His criminal record is worst than Mycal Bell from the Jena 6 trial, and what was your excuse for him?? I can understand that Tip and Tiny may be friends of yours, but if you don't want to give your opinion, please stick with only the facts..all of the facts. Because, I noticed that you made no mention of the fact that Tip got into an altercation at a strip club (with Tiny in tow) the night before the gun purchasing went down??!!
I wish him all the best and I hope that he can bounce back from this bigger, better and stronger. After all he is the original 'Rubberband Man' Much Love for T.I. and all my brothers and sisters on lock down....
Sandra....if this same incident happened to Jay Z and Beyonce....you would have called him all type of donkeys.....and u know it!
a machine gun with a silencer...come on now...if it was just for show he wouldn't need the silencer and i find it funny how he decided to buy all these big boy guns right after his fight at the club the other night. and tiny just lost me too how are you raising kids doing weed and x? like really come onnnn now. smh just shameful
Convicted felons are not allowed to own firearms.
@helena...i agree with you, i am under the impression CW referrs to cooperating witness like u/c means undercover cop, but hey, sandra knows the bodyguards name AND even posted it knowing he is under supposed witness protection...not cool to me. so sandra, the protective custody doesnt mean ish now if you 'outted' him by blogging his name where his name has not been posted anywhere as of yet! granted people are going to be looking for him since he purchased guns for multiple people....he is screwed just as much as TI is if not more.
Once you have a felony it's time to collect something else....like rocks, seashells anything but guns. It's just not smart on any level to risk your future and the future of your children for a hobby.
All I heard this morning was my prayers goes out to TI..... Whatever ....TI vs T. I. P should have new better... All I can see is him on Hip Hip vs America talking about we need to teach our children... I mean come on.. Mr T.I stupid .. stupid.. stupid...
Venitaapplebum
i do not care what excuse is offered to cover this up. if his gun collection interest is legit, then he should have approached it legally. if he couldn't due to his previous legal woes, then guess what...LET IT GO!!!! it's not air! you don't need it to live. this is such a gluttonous and unnecessary thing. greed will get you every time, so his 7 guns weren't enough? well, now he has to pay the price for wanting to "enhance his collection."
as far as tiny, how irresponsible is it AS A MOTHER, pregnant no less, to be caught with 2 drugs on her? i mean, what explanantion is behind that? i know she isn't "collecting" weed and x-LOL!
grow up. people like this don't deserve the opportunities they are given.
biggest112fan said...
Guns that kids could get to. The guns at T.I's house were in a safe only accessible thru fingerprint. Just like in the Mike Vick case,innocent til proven or admitted guilt. Tiny most definetly took a hit for the team with all of that weed and x.
Leesa said...
"I imagine it would be difficult for a boy like T.I. to turn down the chance to own a machine gun. It doesn't make him a bad person."
omg, Sandra I am so mad at you right now. I have to come back later after clear my thoughts.
Oct 15, 2007 4:27:00 PM
Leesa, I am with you on that one! Sandra, I can't believe you said that either. T.I. is on probation. It was illegal for him to own guns! Period! He broke the law. His actions were criminal.
This is crazy to me , I can't believe that you as a journalist is reporting which such bias to the situation. Don't nobody care about your uncle who has a gun collection. We are talking about a 7 time felony who knew darn well that he wasn't suppose to have any firearms. Let's be real with ourselves okay. You are acting quite niave, but you often do when ever it comes to reporting stories about your friends.
I love T.I. as well as I love your site but this is just ridiculous what you wrote about the whole scenrio. If Tiny is pregant then yes I have the same question....weed & "E" for what?!! Oh yeah I forgot she is down for hers...lol How about being down for your kids, she's waayyy to old to act like this.
Collecting guns is about as good an idea as collecting snakes. Sure you can get different configurations for safety, but someone who is a kid (either yours or someone elses) knows someone who doesn't have parents, or has alot of time on their hands.
One of those two types are going to teach them how to use a gun -- and even how to load the bullets. Guns have no place in American households.
If you need a gun to protect yourself, that's a fine excuse the first time, but what about the second time and the guy wasn't even the one that needed to be shot.
MzWoods said...
a machine gun with a silencer...come on now...if it was just for show he wouldn't need the silencer and i find it funny how he decided to buy all these big boy guns right after his fight at the club the other night. and tiny just lost me too how are you raising kids doing weed and x? like really come onnnn now. smh just shameful
My thoughts exactly...and according to reports, they allegedly have him on tape asking about the purpose of the silencer. If they got him on tape...it is a wrap...game over. Because after what happened to Irv Gotti the Feds ain't playing no more. They no exactly what they need to get a conviction and make charges stick. Because now days they r losing too many cases over loopholes and technicalities...so they know what it is and apparently he doesn't. But as I said before we all make mistakes and this is a journey and something he has to go thru. I am just going to pray that God restore him and give him a new frame of mind and rid him of that dope boy mind set.
In the affadavit CW standing for the cooperating witness. If you notice they use the word "the" in front of CW after the first use. The informant initial's might be C.W. as well, but in this legal document CW is cooperating witness.
The cooperating witness (CW) advised the agents that he was purchasing the machine guns on October 10 on behalf of CLIFFORD HARRIS, aka "T.I.," an entertainer for whom the CW had been working as a bodyguard since July 2007. The CW admitted to straw purchasing about nine firearms for HARRIS and about 17 firearms for other persons on previous occasions. Firearm purchase records confirm that the CW has purchased about 25 firearms over the past 18 months. The CW said that HARRIS gave him cash to buy guns on four occasions. HARRIS asked the CW to purchase the firearms for him because HARRIS has a prior felony conviction and therefore cannot lawfully purchase or possess firearms under federal law, while the CW could lawfully obtain guns.
I love all the "I'm gonna say a prayer for him" comments. Why are ya'll saying prayers for a convicted felon who was allegedly buying guns and a pregnant woman allegedly in possession of illegal drugs? I'm pretty sure there are a lot more deserving folks out there that need ya'll prayers. Quit with the celebrity worship. It's not cute.
Whew, I bet JayZ dont have Beyonce carrying weed and X pills.....
Hopefully she will have a beautiful, healthy, little girl.
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If I knew the bodyguard's name I'd out his a$$ too. Like everybody said, "TI should suffer the consequences for his own actions and he knew better", it's no difference for his bodyguard's a$$ either. Nobody made him try and purchase guns for TI, he could've said, "No".
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He shouldn't have had the guns because he's a convicted felon but like Aprill said, "the guns were in a walk in closet, inside a walk in safe, where you had to have your finger print to get it open, those kids couldn't have gotten to those guns".
I agree: as per the law, a convicted felon isn't allowed to have registered guns in their name...doesn't mean they don't still get them or find a way too. I just thought about the dude in GA, who's been in jail for a min b/c he had consensual sex with a white girl...well, she was performing oral sex on him. I think he was 18 and she was 16 or something like that. And they want him to register as a sexual offender?? Is that fair? Is it fair to release convicted felons into society and not give them room to live? Meaning, can't vote, can't get a decent paying job...we'd be here talking about the politics of it until the end of time. Bottom line is: people make mistakes. Jail/prison is supposed to be about rehabilitating these young men and women and releasing them back into a society doing better than they did before they went in. It doesn't happen that way.
I agree also, that TIP shoud've let his passion for guns go and not give them a reason to lock him up. But I also felt a troubled young man when I listened to TI vs TIP.
I would say that we should all wait on the facts and not to jump to conclusions...and having said that, I know he and the others will be tried, convicted and condemned on this blog and every other blog from here to China, BEFORE the trial. I don't want to assume anything, going by what I've read so far. Neither of them have to answer to me or anyone here, just their families and their God(s). I'll refrain from passing judgement until all the facts are presented for this case. Thanks
Shayla said...
cw stands for cooperating witness (in regards to the affadavit), not the bodyguard's initals.
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I know his real name and his intitals are C.W.
I hate when black people talk about ride for your man. First of all the only people you riding for are your damn kids not some dumb nigga.
i knew yall were gone start this shit. T.I. is a convicted felon buying unregistered guns. case closed.
when the task force or whoever comes for you, they just coming. boo fuckin who, there were kids at home and the nephew got stomped. lets stop tryna play victim and get back to the reason they came there in the first place.
continue.
Why do these celebs holding on to ghettolocity? tiny and weed? what? i hope that's not true. and ur pregnant? what? am i in a fuckin twilight zone, or is BET still airing episodes of Ghetto like me?
Sit the fuck down already. First the fat boys break up, now this.
Um, I wonder who is adding people to TI's Myspace page?
@ Carrie, nobody is above prayer, right or wrong. If they are doing good, u pray that they continue on the right path and not stray. If they are doing wrong, you pray that they do better. And u pray for all the innocent people involved, who will be affected by the decisions of others.
I like how all these rocks are being thrown from glass houses. Sandra, u should put up audio of glass shattering. I guess we live in a perfect world where NOBODY messes up.
I actually agree with Sandra (can't believe I just said that)..LOL
A lot of men love guns. My brothers all own a few guns each.
I'm a woman and I own TWO guns!! And honestly, if I was rich like TI and targeted by unknown people, I would definitely have a stash of "heats"(as we call them on the westcoast).
Where he made his mistake, was trusting someone WAY too fast. Dude should have never been put in a situation where he could tell on TI. Like the old saying goes, If we didn't shoot marbles together, I ain't messing with you...period. You don't just meet people and start doing dirt with them.
What happened to the days when men didn't snitch!! Man, these ni**as are weak!! There are more women keeping their mouths shut then men! First Michael Vick, then OJ, then Britney Spears, NOW T.I!!!
It's time to break out the STOP SNITCH t-shirts again!
I lived with a guy who owned guns, some with silencers and 4 machine guns.
United States Attorney David E. Nahmias said of these cases: “Straw purchasers obtain firearms for persons who cannot legally possess guns, including convicted felons. This puts communities here and elsewhere at risk, as shown by the fact that these guns are often later found at crime scenes. We will continue to do all we can to deter and punish those who participate in this illegal activity. Buying firearms for someone else simply is not worth the risk.”
ATF Special Agent in Charge Vanessa McLemore said, “ATF has been warning the public for years of the criminal violations and repercussions of falsely purchasing firearms for someone else, particularly for prohibited persons. It’s plain and simple, Don’t Lie for the Other Guy. But if you do, then ATF will seek indictment, arrest and prosecution. We intend to stop the violence.”
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This is from the prosectors website in Atlanta and was printed on Oct.6 well before T.I got arrested. So him and his crew had advanced notice that they not trying to play in Atlanta. There were plenty of arrest made with thier names on the site not just T.I.
I'm also worried about the folks defending him. That's some misdirection right there. T.I is a felon. His right to legally own guns is no more.
@ helena:
it's called a "web master/manager"...do u seriously think TI be on Myspace everyday?! LOL
@taimia1:
What are you some type of gansta
b!tc$ (no offense)...i've thought about purchasing a gun but you're talking some ol' street shit.
That "stop snitching" shit is played out. Motherf'ers ain't doing time for no one else...Point blank...PERIOD!
WOW at all the excuses... just WOW!!!
Michael Bell of the Jena 6 was a "menace to society" in your own words Sandra. But TIP is just a collector of guns..what in the insane hell????
@helena: most of the time when people talk about their crew they don't include bodyguards.
@bird: TI should've apologized to Tiny. No true nicca would want his chick to go through no shit like that!
Tiny needs to stop being a follower and f'ck that down ass chick shit (i've learned my lesson). She is a grown ass woman w/ kids...Time out for the BS...She need to get some of his $ and start a business or something!
TI should've learned his lesson when the helicopters were hovering over his house a few years ago when he was living on Niskey Lake, but I guess some people never learn...he did time back then, so regardless of what Sandra heard, he should be holding up well...
I hope no one thinks (not that i give a f'ck) i'm contradicting myself when i say he is super cool...I met him numerous times are he was always consistently cool and laid back...But this gun shit is TERRIBLE!
When are people just going to own up and admit they did wrong? Everytime someone gets busted for something, everyone wants to scream "injustice" and say they were "set up." Things like this happen because people weren't smart enough to prevent them from happening.
Whether the bodyguard snitched or not it doesn't hide the fact that T.I. did something illegally, got caught, and now has to face the outcome of his actions.
Don't cry for me Argentina.
Sandra -
My cousins and uncles could WELL afford any gun in the world they wanted(uncles are self made legit millionaires). They just had enough sense to legally purchase them for their collection. And like TI, they have them in a safe and actually have a gun room with two padlocks on it. Naw....TI is just staight hood.
I am waaay late on the comments. IMHO boy do like guns but if the guns are illegal or if the boy is a convicted felon...he might want to pick a new hobby. If that's the case.. drug addicts like crack but if they are caught with crack, they are locked up. There are so many wrongs to this story I wish I could make it right for TI but ole boy slipped and got caught. If there are 'holes' to the case he MIGHT get off but the feds appear to have their stuff tight. We'll see..
Ms. Me said...
WOW at all the excuses... just WOW!!!
Michael Bell of the Jena 6 was a "menace to society" in your own words Sandra. But TIP is just a collector of guns..
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T.I. said himself he's a street ni**a and a thug. I'm not excusing his behavior. I'm giving you a plausible reason why he had the guns.
Man I hope he doesnt end up doing a ridiculous amount of time.
My prayers go out to him and his family.
@AricaKane - I don't see anyone stating that they are perfect. People not making excuses or not offering prayer in this case means they think they're perfect? Give me a break. You need to come up with something better than that. This isn't some simple little mistake...this is a HUGE mistake that most people DO NOT make.
At some point, people need to be held RESPONSIBLE for their actions. Offering up excuses and prayers for a convicted felon and a pregnant woman in possession of drugs sends the message that this type of behavior is CONDONED. Not to mention, all these excuses and prayers are no where to be seen in other posts about people who truly need it.
Life is not the set of a music video! I actually was a bit disappointed when I heard this news... Tiny needs to move on and make a better life for her children, is this the kind of lifestyle she wants her children emulating in 12- 15years?
Ms. Me said...
WOW at all the excuses... just WOW!!!
Michael Bell of the Jena 6 was a "menace to society" in your own words Sandra. But TIP is just a collector of guns..
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T.I. said himself he's a street ni**a and a thug. I'm not excusing his behavior. I'm giving you a plausible reason why he had the guns.
HE BROKE THE LAW! HE KNEW HE HAD ONE MORE STRIKE. HE'S ON PROBATION AND BOUGHT 9 FREAKING GUNS! THERE IS NO PLAUSIBLE REASON. HE WAS COMMITTING A CRIME!
Well I believe the bodyguard is a snitch, not because of TI case but, he has been working for TI since July of this year, yet he told the police according to the affidavit that he has bought 25 guns in the last 18mths (15 mths of those were prior to working for TI). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know he's getting ready to tell on who he bought those guns for and from. He already told that he purchased at least three other guns prior to this so, you know he told where he got them from. Now I see why they have him in protective custody. (sp)
Hmm, pregant? Hope the ex and weed were for TI then.
@ carrie-Why are ya'll saying prayers for a convicted felon? Wow to say that these are allegations is the first point. Secondly,to say you don't have a heart for people is sad. Yes he is a convicted felon. Yes we all have at least one in your family. That does not make him or Tiny less than human. All of us have made at least five bad decisions. Thank God we weren't caught or some of us were not convicted felons and or didn't become convicted felons as a result.
I don't know what Tiny was doing with those drugs but she was definetly not going to consume them all. I will continue to pray for them just as I will for Genarlow Wilson. I don't have to discriminate as so many in the world. I have the right to. I totally had a very rude awakening at the beginning of the Jena 6 and Mike Vick situation. God doesn't discriminate like PETA and many others. PEACE and congrats on the baby TI and family.
It doesn't make him a bad person...it just makes him a dumbass. Why would you get someone else to purchase fire arms for you while you're on parole...and you're a rapper? It's an obvious violation and people are always out to set people up. He should have been smarter than that and he should have kept his kids in mind.
I like T.I. he is one of the few rappers out there today that I really care for. But this is the reality: Convicted Felons are NOT allowed to have a GUN, let alone an arsenal...I hope the drugs they found on Tiny, were T.I.'s I would hate to think that she is doing drugs while pregnant...I wish the best for the both of them.... I will be praying for their entire family...
I know she loves her man to death. I know many people consider her a "down ass chick" or "ride and die chick", but as a Nurse and pregnant soon to be mother of 3, I WILL need for her to sit down, take a deep breathe and relax.
And to not let his matters stress her to the point where she isn't focusing on her health and unborn child. Unless she wants to miscarry or deliver another stillborn child.
That being said, if she was carrying drugs, which I won't make assumptions on, then I'd love to come up with an idea as to why she would.
Was she holding it for her party mates knowing she'd be less likely to do any hard time if she was caught holding,as opposed to them? Or was she holding the stash and using it too?
Britney Spears is a sucky parent but she didn't have ATF agents kicking in her door. I would hope that social services don't get involved.
Now is a good time to take her son away to not give him daily reminders of this mess. Take herself to a spa. And get T.I some of P. Fluffy's lawyers because that boy gets into all kinds of mess and NEVER goes to jail.
And this is so sad. Right on the heels of what looks like a damn good moving coming out with him, Common and Denzel Washington. Did he not know how much being in that movie would have helped his music career? How much more money it would have brought him? To allow himself to do or led into something so trivial.
IF he gets off and this is a bif IF, I hope this makes them rethink their lifestyle.
The visions of seeing his father arrested will forever be in that little boys memory.
Sandra Rose said...
T.I. said himself he's a street ni**a and a thug. I'm not excusing his behavior. I'm giving you a plausible reason why he had the guns.
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Oh, so what you're really trying to do is convince us that he wasn't buying the guns and silencers to bust a cap in someone's ass because that is worse than a fellon collecting them.
I've been thinking all day that it is wonderful for everyone involved that TI got caught before he had the opportunity to kill someone. So now he'll do anywhere from 2 - 10 years instead of life in prison. I'm praying he learns this lesson.
In all honesty Tiny is probably one of those bad influences from his past that he needs to cut off. She is older than him and yet she is down for this insanity. Yeah he needs to cut her loose.
no one should be quick to jugde anyone on their actions. leave tip alone and let the jury decide his fate. this is more than just tip getting in trouble with the law. it is about his character and how GOD sees him. this only a trial and tribulation for him and his FAMILY. if anyone who is reading this, pray for him and his children. it's important that he focuses his attention on the LORD. let the book of JOB be a reminder, TIP. Give GOD praise and he will burden those hearts who decide your fate.
WOW. This has warranted alot of onversation, I see. My opinion? Just damn! If God, Jah, Allah (whatever you believe) gives you the opportunity to make it like some of these celebs, why do anything to screw it up? I loves me some T.I., too...but the fact is he is a convicted felon, and therefore, cannot legally possess firearms. SMH. I hope they come out alright and everything but...Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
Incognegro said...
When are people just going to own up and admit they did wrong? Everytime someone gets busted for something, everyone wants to scream "injustice" and say they were "set up." Things like this happen because people weren't smart enough to prevent them from happening.
Whether the bodyguard snitched or not it doesn't hide the fact that T.I. did something illegally, got caught, and now has to face the outcome of his actions.
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I wholeheartly agree.
There really are some "big thangs Poppin' now!
When you have money, you need to use common sense. There are things that poor folks can do and get away with (for the most part) that people in the media can't. T.I.P.'s a dummy, just like Vick was.
Btw, wasn't Vick supposed to be playing this season, despite the dog fighting charges? lol
this is so sad..my baby going to jail..regardless if he was 'SLIGHLTLY' involved, they are gunning for him..pun intended.. yes tip, you and my boyfriend aint no tie...
oh yeah, Tiny looks nice in that pic..
I agree with Sandra, Men love guns, I know my boyfriend does, and his father was the same. But, T.I. who has EVERYTHING to lose, should have started collecting something other then guns, what does he need them for? And he's a convicted felon who should have known better!! And why would he trust some dude he just met this year in July. I know T.I. is hurting right now, and so am I, I'm his biggest fan, and I wish him the best, but this doesn't look like it's going to turn out well. GOD bless his family...
If this had happened to someone else, I'm sure SR wouldn't report it -- nor would this pour out the comments.
Considering no one is really surprised this is happening in hip-hop, in music in general, exactly what are there so many comments?
This kinda thing gets boring after awhile. Rapper with Guns is about as exciting as Shar Jackson getting air-time, you already know why.
WTH, I know at least 7 women that sell drugs from my native state. Why do people automatically assume Tiny is selling drugs for TI? Get real not that it's right but, there are plenty of women who sell for themselves, how do any of us know Tiny is one of those women? I am not at all saying it's right for her to do so but, don't automatically think that because she choses to sell illegal drugs that it is for TI. (sp)
definition of plausible:
apparently reasonable and valid, and truthful; "a plausible excuse".
i love your site. sometimes i agree with your commentary sometimes i don't. this time i don't. for more reasons than one. many comments that reflect my views have already been posted, so i'll leave it as that.
tis all.
Sandra like I posted this on my site.....Wasn't this a little bit harsh on the kids? I would think after arresting T.I and Tiny (who is pregnant) in a shopping center parking lot, you should have staked out a house such as that to determine who was inside. Now what if any of those children started shooting thinking it was intruders, ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE KINDS OF WEAPONS IN THE HOUSE FULLY LOADED! The ATF would HAVE a totally different case on their hands today.The second amendment protects each one of them. There was absolutely no need to stomp the 15 year old! HE WAS SIMPLY SCARED!!
I HAVE THE CNN VIDEO ON MY SITE OF THE COURTROOM CHAOS as reported by Catherine Callaway on Monday's news.
www.Keminications.com
There should be no question, the body guard snitched. No, it doesn't hide the fact that T.I. did something illegally, got caught and now has to face the outcome of his actions. Nor does it hide the fact that TI's snitching, punk a$$ bodyguard did something illegally and got caught and snitched. But, because of his snitching a$$ actions he doesn't have to face the outcome.
TI, shouldn't have done what he did, when he knows he is on probation and is not supposed to be around guns but, that wussy a$$, snitching bodyguard should have faced his own actions also. If I had a picture of his punk a$$ I'd release it, along with his name.
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Carrie said:
At some point, people need to be held RESPONSIBLE for their actions. Offering up excuses and prayers for a convicted felon and a pregnant woman in possession of drugs sends the message that this type of behavior is CONDONED. Not to mention, all these excuses and prayers are no where to be seen in other posts about people who truly need it.
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Exactly that is why I don't see why everyone is upset that Sandra didn't support Mr. Bell. His a$$ is no different than TI's he's a convicted repeat offender, he knew right from wrong, and continued to do wrong. (sp)
carrie, you need jesus, and i will pray for allll of you haters. We are responsible for our actions, but damn, we are humans and we make mistakes. So you are saying that he shouldn't get prays because he's a felon? Grow up, and it's not a hip-hop thing men like guns, i own a bunch, i'm 34 years old and never shot anyone but a target at a gun range. He should have handled that in another way. Stop throwing people under tha bus. Have you noticed they don't want us(blacks) to have alot of guns, but white people have been collecting guns 4 ever. Lord help us if we ever go into marshall law and something really bad happens. Think about it
@Bloggergirlz
Gangsta B!tch?! Not really, but call me what you want. I just don't believe in throwing someone elses name in some mess.(whatever it may be). If he offered to purchase guns for TI...HE offered to break the law and AGREED to committ a crime. So if you can do the crime, you should be able to do the CRIME (without saying another mans name)!!! Why is that so hard to understand? Basically by giving the ATF TI's name, he has allowed them to build a much bigger case than they would have EVER had(on him). Which makes me believe it was set up from the start. Think about it, what kind of case could that have brought forth against him. Sure, he was trying to purchase guns without registering them, BUT he was STILL licensed to have them in the beginning! So it was a weak case to start with.
@Taimia1,
Would you do us a favor and go jump off the cliff with all the other lemmings please? Y'all are a disease.....
MY thing is!! “WHY the HELL the body guard just didnt shut his mouth” let T.I. bail him out of jail he would have did a little time and T.I. would have kicked him Down Later!! he could have wrote on a piece of paper what happen so no one would have heard him TIP off T.I.P. and the whole thing would have been called off he could have told ATF that T.I. didnt want to deal with him no more and just played DUMB!! STUPPPID……… so you are a SNICTH now and will never work as a “BODY GUARD ” for anyone again! so you have no money or job now!! I DONT feel sorry for this BODY GUARD because he agreed to do the deal for him…
Congrats to Tiny and Clifford. This is a happy occassion for them that was shadowed by Clifford getting caught up in the system once AGAIN!!!
Just because you are a multi-millionare artist doesn't make you invisible to the law...he is a convicted felon that can't be around GUNS nor individuals who are a felon like you...why are you surrounding yourself with bullshit?!!!
I hope that he has opened his eyes and if he is released...turn over a new leaf!!!
Everything happens for a reason and I am quite sure through this situation T.I and Tiny will both find out who there friends are and who are not there friends. These situations have a way of humbling people, I know right now he is not thinking he is the King of the South. I really hope things work out and I hope Tiny doesn't stress too much, for the baby's sake. Sometimes things like this will force you to get to know GOD. I hope that if this was a setup, that the truth comes out, but with him being a felon and having guns, unless he has some dope lawyers, he will probably do time. Tiny better get Xscape back together and start making her own money......It's also ashame that they had to go Rambo into the man's house with the kids in there like that, that was wrong.
Sandra, we all know you are friends with TI and Tiny, unfortunately that does not mean you need to offer any explanations for TI's woes. You need to take a step back and let them deal with it. Remember it's not just you and your friends that go to your sites.
Being Hood or Ganster ultimately lands you in jail and that's the truth.
C.W. is not his initials Sandra, C.W. stands for cooperating witness.
Sandra,
Thanks you for sharing more information on the subject , I wish people would stop hating on T. I and Tiny , I love Tiny & T.I. as a couple they have weathered the storm . I wish them the best , I hope that this nightmare will soon be over .
My thoughts on why TI's punk a$$ body guard is a snitch: The SNITCH stated that he was purchasing machine guns on 10-12-07 on behalf of another person. The SNITCH stated that he knew it was illegal for him to possess machines guns without properly registering them. The SNITCH admitted he purchased 9 guns for TI and 17 additonal guns for individuals other than TI. Why the hell did his snitching ass even have to mention, he illegally purchased 17 other guns for other individuals for? They didn't know that. Not only that, the SNITCH told how other people *TI's camp* went with him to purchase guns for TI, a felon. He agreed to make a, " in their own words" consensually moniterd call to TI. The SNITCH knew what he was doing.
Please don't misconstrue my words and think I am justifying TI's actions because, I am not. He is a felon with a family, he knew the deal, family should have came first. I still say, that the bodyguard is a PUNK A$$ SNITCH, who could've said no and chose not too. I hate repeat offenders but, I hate punk a$$ snitches even more. I have an uncle who is supposed to get out of prison next year, his dumb a$$ and his dumb a$$ friends did something illegal. He was the only one to get caught, did he turn in the other 3? Hell no, so don't think that because the government/police offer you everything but a million dollars that everyone is willing to roll over on someone, while knowingly commiting a crime and getting caught.
There is a difference between you giving the police information about something you saw or may have been implacated in *and you weren't* vs. you knowingly doing something illegal and telling on everyone because you got caught. People may say, "well I can see why he told, I wouldn't do time for TI". News flash: If he had done the time, he wouldn't have done it for TI, he would've done it because, he knew the law and chose to break it BOTTOM LINE.
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As far as the kids having to suffer for TI's wrong doings, I don't care if TI shot 50 people, those were his actions, not those kids, they shouldn't have to suffer for shyt but, their own actions *that applies to all kids*!!!!!!! (sp)
@bankz - Maybe I should have worded it differently. It's not that this man and his pregnant girlfriend don't deserve prayer, it's that I don't believe 90% of these people offering up their prayer would do so if it was a regular citizen. Thus my mention of celebrity worship. Guaranteed if it was convicted felon Raheem and his pregnant girlfriend from down the block, all these people praying and carrying on would be foaming at the mouth saying he should be in jail and what a menace he is to the community, just like they have in other cases, including Sandra. That's my point.
in the famous words of florida evans, all i have to say is DAMN, DAMN, DAAAAAAAMN!!!
I don't really care how much boys love guns. T.I. is a convicted felon and should not have guns. That's why we need better gun control. Ridiculous. If any other felon received guns, which happens every day, people would be outraged. Don't commit a crime and you can own legal guns --like your brother.
I like T.I.'s music, and he seemed nice enough in the one time I ran into him. However, I don't have on rose colored glasses about this crime.
Go to Jail, Clifford. Do your time. Hopefully it's a lot of time. No excuses this time. I hope it's all a wrap. The world in front of you and you get into this? For whatever reason, was it worth it? Let this be an example to any other rapper or "hood" whatever you glorify. That's why we stay down. Killing our own.
Sandra, why are you making excuses for him? He knows he's not allowed to have firearms, why have them? What kind of collector needs machine guns and silencers? Stupid is as stupid does, this mess is his own fault. Please don't scream "set up" because he didnt' use good judgement or was up to something shady...
to Carrie & @ bankz:
both of you have valid points, but the truth is - no matter how holy u are prayer with no POSITIVE action behind it is worthless.
plain and simple.
"I hate repeat offenders but, I hate punk a$$ snitches even more."
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There are NO WORDS... NONE NONE NONE!
How are you going to HATE the offenders but hate those that bring them to justice more????
If someone shot your child dead, and someone who was also a criminal knew who did it, would you still hate the snitch or the offender????? HMMMMM???
A simple yes or no will suffice.
To say that T.I. might not have intended to use the weapons seized is not the point. And to compare his situation to that of your bro's is almost counterintuitive. I'm sure your bro is NOT an ex-felon and is a bonafide collector. T.I. IS an ex-felon with a lot to lose by getting involved in the whole thing. And to have guns at the house was just wrong all together.
But this brings a larger issue to the forefront. I mean, can former criminals who make "right" with their lives by becoming rappers and entreprenuers, really leave the life behind? It's true that one can say "Well, I'm legit now," but that doesn't mean that the past is left in the past. I'm wondering how "safe" many of these artists feel after leaving behind lives of criminal activity?
This is all so sad to see, especially since T.I. seemed to be headed for a lot more success.
And I ditto what many said: Why, if Tiny is pregnant, was she caught with so many pills and drugs?
Yes some guys do have a thing for guns, my brother is a felon and he has at least three guns that I know, he dont care nothing about being a felon and you cant tell him shit,my brother and TI are the type of people that dont learn until it is too late.
Seattle Slim,
Looks like we will be agreeing to disagree. As soon as I type up this report, I will respond. =)
SS you asked me
If someone shot your child dead, and someone who was also a criminal knew who did it, would you still hate the snitch or the offender????? HMMMMM??? The answer would be NO I would not.
Which brings me to the rest of my comment you pointed out; were I stated below:
There is a difference between you giving the police information about something you saw or may have been implacated in *and you weren't* vs. you knowingly doing something illegal and telling on everyone because you got caught.
The reason why the sentencing of laws differ is because according to the man made laws, some crimes are harsher than others. If you steal something you wont get 15+ years; however if you murder someone you can. Therefore in this situation I find it pointless to do the what if's. You can't compare this situation *a dumb a$$ felon, having someone buy him guns illegally, to someone who has taken another person's life* they are two entirely different situations.
As I stated above this isn't a case where the SNITCH was deceived into picking up illegal weapons for a convicted felon, he had no idea about. Had it been that situation and he had gotten caught, hell by all means do tell. That is not snitching. Knowingly setting up a purchase and going to pick up illegal weapons for a convicted felon and when getting caught, decide to tell names in MY eyes is a SNITCH.
Hell if I tell the police I saw John Doe rob the lady across the street, in MY eyes I wouldn't be snitching. If I however robbed, or set up the robbery of the woman across the street and I got caught and told on everyone who was with me; in my eyes that is a snitch.
My opinion is mine, other peoples may differ, does that make mine more right or wrong than theirs? Nope, it just mean we see things differently.
@Aqtpie,
We may just have to agree to disagree and that's fine. I'm not so cocky that I expect for my every word to be law.
All I am saying is that I am intolerant to any type of criminal in our black communities period. I don't care by which manner he is taken down, take him down and get him off the street. I'm not mad at the snitches for taking them down, chances are if they are doing wrong, they need to be snitched on anyway.
We are talking about serious weaponry. Celebrities get robbed everyday. T.I. should've learned especially after he lost a friend to violence.
This is the reason why I like SR's site because you can have two or more adults that agree to disagree without having to bash each other. Eq: I think Beyonce is beautiful but, for someone else she may be average, would I call them out on that because we differ opinions? NEVER
Now back to the topic at hand, you said:
All I am saying is that I am intolerant to any type of criminal in our black communities period. I don't care by which manner he is taken down, take him down and get him off the street. I'm not mad at the snitches for taking them down, chances are if they are doing wrong, they need to be snitched on anyway.
I 100% agree that anyone of any race and any community that commits a crime should be reprimended for doing so and this also includes the snitch who was breaking the law. Which brings me to the SNITCH at hand, he wasn't trying to get TI off the street for doing something illegal or he felt he was a menance to society, IMO he only told on TI and others because, he got caught.
Please believe, that I'd be thanking the SNITCH *and he wouldn't be considered a snitch in my eyes*, had he went to the police and said, "I work for someone who is a convicted felon, has a collection of illegal guns and wants me to purchase more." In my eyes he would not be considered a snitch. I'd have the mindset, "hey he is helping the black community, hell America period". Now because he had purchased guns for TI prior to TI's arrest and did so, knowing that TI was a felon, knowing those guns were illegal and could endanger his community with those guns and chose not to tell the police and only told because he was caught, I'm sorry I see him as a snitch, only out to save his own a$$ after breaking the law for a convicted felon and getting caught; not to make his community better by getting law breakers off the street. (sp)
maybe she should put the X and weed down before she does the new baby some damage...why isn't anyone saying anything about that??
But aqtpie, I see what you're saying but you know the saying "there's no honor amongst thieves."
Sandra Rose, your defense of T.I. would be more legitimate if it was one machine gun, but Clifford Harris purchased an arsenal of automatic assault rifle WITH SILENCERS!!!!!!!!! Those are guns strictly, only, explicitly killing human beings. You are blinded by race. How dare you defend this criminal.
you silly fool.
CW is short for coorperating witness
silly fools
CW is not the initials
CW is short for cooperating witness.
im really affected by this TI shit.
but come the fuck on. please dont be that ignorant
Does anybody understand the concept of First the Marriage, then the baby..... Ladies, we need to aspire to be more than just the long time girlfriend or the baby mama!!!!
COME ON PEOPLE LETS STOP JUDGING,TI DOESNT HAVE TO ANSWER TO NOBODY BUT HIS FATHER IN HEAVEN WE WILL ALL BE JUDGE ON JUDGEMENT DAY.SECOND, HE DONT KNOW WHAT WAS TI REASON FOR PURCHASE THEM MANY GUNS WHICH HE WAS WRONG CAUSE HE KNEW HE A FELONY BUT WE ONLY HEARD ONE SIDE OF THE STORY HE HAVENT HEARD HIS STORY, THAT MAN HAVE KIDS AND ITS SO UNFAIR TO HIS KIDS HAVE TO VISIT THEIR DAD BEHIND BARS AND HEAR AND READ SUCH THINGS ABOUT THEIR DAD.INSTEAD OF CUTTING PEOPLE DOWN PRAY FOR HIM. ALL THIS NEGATIVE VIBES WONT MAKE THINGS ANY BETTER. WHEN YOU LIVE IN THE WORLD AND DOES WORLDLY THINGS YOU BOUND TO MAKE MISTAKES(SIN) SO PUT IN GOD HANDS AND PRAY FOR OUR BROTHER WHICH WE ALL ARE BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST. ITS OK DISAGREE AND AGREE WE ARE IN AMERICA SO STOP BASHING SANDRA ROSE SHE IS ENTITLE TO HER OPINION JUST AS WELL YOU ALL ARE ENTITLE TO YOURS.MAY GOD BE WITH YOU TI AND TINY.THINGS HAPPEN FOR A REASON MAYBE IT HAPPEN TO GET YALL CLOSER TO GOD. SO PRAY ABOUT AND WATCH THE LORD WORK. HE'S AN ON TIME GOD!
I see a lot of the " He has money, he should have more sense" comments. People be real. A lot of people have no money and make bad decisions everyday- money does not make you problem or mistake free and further more people with "money" get into more trouble than this- you just don't hear about it because of the money. Was T.I. wrong- maybe- doesn't give anyone reason to judge that man. How many of us have enough skeletons in the closet to have our own grave yard - the fact is because we are "ordinary people" no one gives a flying #$%@. I have 4 people that I know personally doing fed time right now and neither one of them are stupid people- just made some bad decisions. Let the man have his day in court. NONE of us are perfect and I realize that when you are behind the keyboard you become the person that you wish you were and you try to display that by every keystroke- but truth of the matter is we have all done something that would have probably gotten us jail time whether we blame it on being " young and dumb" or whatever else- we just haven't gotten caught.
And as far as Tiny goes- you don't know what ole girl was doing with the stuff- frankly ain't our business. Making speculations about people is wrong. Why can't we just lift them up in prayer and hope for the best for them- guilty or not? And don't give me that bull about " well they are in the spotlight"- whatever the have the same amount of arteries and the same amount of blood flowing through them as the rest of us.
That being said- i wish him and his family the best I pray that this situation does not deter his career or his very active community service.
Sandra Rose, tell the truth - you are a thug, too, aren't 'cha?
Ok people, Ok. Nine times out of ten that was NOT Tiny's X or weed. Lets quit acting retarded. Seeing as how she has no record and that is her man, she more than likely took it from him so that he wouldn't have that charge to worry about as well. She loves her man, thats it, point blank. I really don't think she was taking the stuff.
SS said:
But aqtpie, I see what you're saying but you know the saying "there's no honor amongst thieves."
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That statement is true.
@ Sandra
Oh Sandra C.W. still doesn’t stand for Confidential Witness it is Cooperating Witness ha ha ha
stop hating haters, tiny stay with t.i. all yall know if it was your man you would do the same thing. most of yall just mad cause you can't have him. if the same thing happened to my man i would do the same thing belive that.
I think this was all a setup Iam a true die hard fan of Tip's and I know that he wouldn't put Tiny in any danger.Also and I wanna comment on what the lady under me said;dont blame anything on Tip he is a very good father and would die for his kids, but that dont mean that Tiny has to do everything that he does she is her own person.So what she do with her time is on her.
This is what is wrong with the world today, people are so quick to judge, make assumptions, and give out their advice about what the woman should do. We can do that because we know their situation because it's public but I bet you're not in a great situation. Everyone makes mistakes, we are not a perfect people and we all get another chance or two. Who are we to cast judgement? Yes, what he did was wrong, but we don't know his situation. What people tend to portray in public is sometimes different behind closed doors. As for Tiny, girl stay with your man if you love him because trouble don't last always. So my advice for them is to stay prayerful together, love & protect their children, and keep their heads up. Like it say, "Put Your Trust In No Man" This is just a stumbling block. Everything we go through in life is a lesson to be learned from even if we have to go through it more than once. Don't let this situation beat you, you beat it and continue to be a blessing to your people and more people in the world.
"MOTIVATION - YOU KNOW WHAT IS"
Since Tiny is pregnant did anyone stop to think that maybe the drugs aren't hers. She probably took the rap for TI since that's what he's on probabtion for steming from a 1997 drug charge and probabtion violation in Cobb County, GA. Drug charges on top of trying to purchase machine guns would've made things a hell of alot worse than they already are!
Interesting Sandra. You had little sympathy for the Jena 6 boys who many felt were being overprosecuted for their offenses..
... but you want to sit here and make excuses for TI. The man is an idiot. He knew as a convicted felon he shouldnt have had a gun. Maybe they would have been lenient if they caught him with one. But (between the ones in his house, his jeep, and the ones he was buying from CW) he had well over a dozen!! How stupid is that. Forbes magazine says he made $16 million last year... so why jeopardize your paper just because you "love toys"? Hes stupid.
And whats your excuse for the silencers? Was that a "toy" too? Most people who use silencers on guns are up to no good. I think we all understand that. Illegal guns are responsible for the loss of too many black lives, anyway. This guy gets no sympathy from me.
Even if this man's initial's are CW, why is that important to the story? Its not relevant at all, unless you have a particular reason for trying to put that out there.
Maybe by you putting his initials out there, it might help tip off someone who might want to do this man harm. So if "CW" gets rubbed out, and cant testify... better chance of TI getting off. Hmmm.
Normally I would think an idea like that would be kinda far-fetched. But since you're obviously bending over backward to try to put TI in a positive light here, I wouldn't put anything past you, sad to say.
If TI committed crimes, let him go to prison just like me or any other regular black man would.
I love me some T.I. no matter what goes on. I just think that it was a real setup. People hate to see our black people do good, no matter what they are. They will only allow you to get so far before they try and bring you down. Now I am not saying what T.I. did was right, because he does have kids, and what he was buying the guns for I have no idea. I just think its messed up how they are going to try and give him 10 years for that, but I can recall when Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie was in the media for their DUI's they only got a couple of days, one even only did minutes in jail. Tell me our judicial system isn't all messed up. I wish the best for T.I. and his family. As far as Tiny goes, that is the mother of his son, and soon to be baby on the way, and if T.I. was my man I would be holding it down for him too, but she needs to be a little more careful about what she does, before she ends up in jail as well. I just think we you have kids all your choices and decisions should be based on what's best for your kids.
I have to admit that I know the bodyguard and I served with him in Iraq. He was special forces. I also know he has been doing security for a number of years. How can people expect him to go to jail for another man? T.I. wouldn't have went to jail for him. Let's be real people and if Tiny had weed and ectasy in her bag and she is pregnant. T.I. is wrong for letting his girl do it knowing she's pregnant.
I also know that the bodyguard is an extremely nice guy but, like I said he served in the military special forces and he's not really worried about someone running up on him. He has other people watching his back also. I also know that he never went into a gun store asking how could he buy some unregisted guns. He may as well have went to the police and said how could I dump a dead body. We need to here both there stories before we cast judgements on them. I believe both of them made a mistake that they regret. I am a T.I. fan. I have bought all of his albums but, I am the bodyguards friend and he saved my life in Iraq. The man took a bullet for me. So believe me Shayla if someone run up on him. They will have to deal with alot more than just him.
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