Friday, September 28, 2007

Young Jeezy: A Tale of 2 Women

Jeezy, Keyshia, Mialy
Photos (left) Wireimage/Getty; (center, right, and below) Sandra Rose

As most if you know, this weekend is Young Jeezy's big birthday weekend in Atlanta starting today. Jeezy will celebrate his store opening on Saturday for his clothing line 8732. And, on Sunday there will be a private birthday party sponsored by Courvoisier Exclusif at a hangar at Peachtree DeKalb airport with numerous celeb guests in attendance. Jay Z and BeYaki will make a grand entrance on their private jet at the entrance to the hangar. I know, but they're not called the industry's cornyest couple for nothing.

Mialy, Jeezy You also are aware that Jeezy is no longer kicking it with Keyshia Cole. Here's the real story behind that drama. Last year I told you about Jeezy's other woman, a patient young woman named Mialy who has been with Jeezy for over 4 years now. I met Mialy at Vision in July '06 when she walked into VIP with Jeezy. At the time I had heard rumors about Jeezy and Keyshia, so I swooped in on Mialy. She was more than happy to tell me that she was Jeezy's "girlfriend." So happy, in fact, that she said it three times. This was confirmed by a well-placed source.

My inside source breaks down what happened when Keyshia and Mialy suddenly met face to face last Summer in an Atlanta restaurant.

Well, as for Jeezy, my girl is a Cuban girl. Well, they have been sleeping together for about 3yrs, & we ran into him & Keyshia at spondivtz the other week... Well, Jeezy (who code name is Chevy's) saw us walk in. Well, he got up & left Keyshia to sit with Mialy & us... he just got up & was like, 'I need to holla at my peoples.' [Keyshia] was mean mugging but she didn't cut up. Mialy wouldn't have tripped on him either way because, again, she has been fucking with him for 3yrs. [Keyshia] was talking to his boys because she couldn't really figure out if we were friend or foe. But let me say, she played her cards well. She is not some hood rat girl with nothing too lose. I think that she was thinking about it. Well, he paid our tab (it was like 5 of us) & he and his crew continued to chill there after we left.
Apparently, Keyshia decided she was no longer satisfied being a jump off, or maybe she found her self-esteem somewhere along the way. Anyway, Keyshia and Juanita Bynum are in the same boat: they both seek out men who are unavailable to them either because they're married, seeing someone or are unavailable emotionally. These type of relationships always end badly. Keyshia and Juanita should both get therapy to break this unhealthy pattern.

91 comments:

Kpakpando said...

Sandra I wonder what your advice would be to Mialy and other women like her, who let their men run around in public with other women. Isn't that unhealthy as well? Isn't the man equally as unavailable to them too? What about their self esteem? If the man doesn't want to be with just you, is there some sort of pride in being the "first" or "main" chick?

bloggergirlz said...

Damn! I knew something was up with the fake ass Essence story.

Bay Area!! said...

Wow! This story was posted before, but as a BLIND item.

It happens to the BEST of us (getting played), but hopefully she (Keyshia) does find the right person, one day.

Her CD is HOT and very emotional. I see why.

I also see why she used "LET IT GO” as her 1st single. She could not have said it better…

Thanks Sandra for the story....

Strawberry Fields said...

WOW.. There are some woman who seek out married men but it is up to those married men to stay faithful to their spouses. Jeezy is a dog & just because him & that girl were "fucking with each other" for 3 yrs, doesn't mean ol' girl is anybody special.. Same thing goes for Keyshia. I am glad Keyshia moved on cause Jeezy ain't shit, just like most of these industry dudes.. Lame! That was a good one Sandra! Keep them coming ;) Keep doing your thing!

DIE BEYAKI DIE!!! said...

That was an akward situation for Keyshia to be in. Men need to grow up.

STILL_POCAHONTAZ said...

The chick Mialy is cute, she favors JD's baby mama a little. Anyways, neither one of them should care...I mean c'mon its lipless Jeezy we are talking about..ugh

Shania said...

And he is probably messing with how many other women, while this girl's friend is "setting the record straight". So who is the fool, both Keyshia and this other chick. both of them are jumpoff's. As far as you continuing to reference Juanita Bynum, she has recognized her patern and is looking into her self and to God for help. You are such a sad person Sandra and its just ridiculous.

Divababy said...

Hold Up Sandra! Don't dump Keyshia in the same boat with Juanita! Two total different people with two total different situations. Keyshia is growing and for that she get my respect. She anaylzed the situation and got her out. Now that fool Mialy is just another Kim Porter without all the kids! Isn't it funny that she told you that she was his girlfriend and not Jeezy himself. Sorry, but I got to call this one like I see it and Mialy is just another Kim Porter without the kids and money. There is no way I would tolerate my man being with another woman at the restaurant regardless if he paid the bill. These women need to want more for themselves besides fame and fortune. What happen to self respect and dignity. She looks like a damn fool. I'm so sick of these young women wasting their time and energy on a man that doesn't even respect you. 3 years in a relationship and have nothing to show for it.

CreditLady said...

DANG.....Mialy and Jeezy prolly had one of those homie-lover-friend relationships. Those are hood relationships where they both know neither one of them aren't going anywhere, BUT they are free to explore. Which would explain how chick handled herself in public when she seen them. I see those types of relationships ALL the time.

Im sure he keeps her well, so she don't trip. He's "street" and that comes with being attached to a street nicca I must say. They go play all the time......Everything he's going through now with industry women, please believe it was like that when he was in the dope game. Chicks will do anything to get these type of men and temptation causes them to stray.

This is just the type of lifesytle it is messing with a d-boy and especially a "platinum selling" d-boy. Welcome to the streets!! (I know this situation way too well...lol)


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cinnamonkisses said...

Wow , so she gave a different story in ESSENCE to make herself look good. When all the while she was getting played .

Thanks Sandra ,for setting the record straight .

Yvonne79 said...

Goes to show that no one is exempt when it comes to getting played.

KAYLA said...

First, let me state that I know "Dog" personally (that is his code name, if you really want to know.) Dog is a very social person, me and his roommate Renaldo ("Slick Pulla") used to date. In saying this, I could see why Keyshia may have though that was his people's FOR REAL!! However, Jay lives up to his nick name very well.....and believe me Ms. Cubian and Keyshia were not the only jump offs. Keyshia is cool and her album is dope!! Go get it and dont feel any sympathy b/c her paper is long and she has already moved on! Happy B-Day "DOG", hopefully you will take the time out to reflect on how much you need to grow up!

NyNy said...

How are you going to judge Keyshia in this matter????? You stated that Mialy was sleeping with him for 3-4 years......He never made her the exclusive chick and if she was his girl he did not acknowledge her as his girlfriend. So how did Keyshia "seek" out someone that was taken???????????? Mialy is the dumb one to let him use her knowing the whole time he was with Keyshia. Keyshia probably did not learn about this girl until after the fact.....so why are you making her out to this home wrecker. Sandra you do not know this girl on a personal level nor Jeezy so why are you acting like you no the "real" story of there relationship.....WTF!!!!! You really kill me with your "drama".......LOL!!!!!!!

D~ said...

It's funny how we always put the blame on the females...why should KC change her ways...what about the "girlfriend" who has been patient(??) btw what does that mean, she's been waiting in the wings while Jezzy disrespects her with other women?? What about Jezzy who brought these two women into each others lives...HE knew about the "girlfriend" HE was sleeping with for 3yrs, HE stepped to KC...do we forget?? Maybe the jump off, I mean "girlfriend" needs to check her self esteem as well...And the reality is neither one of them should have been messing with a dude that had to get taken to court by his BM just to pay child support...I'm just sayin'!!

LADIES STOP LETTIN DUDES DISRESPECT YOU JUST TO SAY YOU'RE WITH SOMEONE FAMOUS OR FOR THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR, YOU'RE REALLY JUST SELLING YOUR SOUL!!!

kat said...

who else has keyshia messed with that was supposedly taken or married for her to have a "pattern"?

NoWay said...

PSA,

To all you Black women who want to haold in anger wait till you get 30 40 or 50 and you are full of fibroids and breast cancer cuz you took too much shit from men that act like boys and that don't respect you. Don't act like a lady unless your treated like one. I would have been throwing chairs and then paid my OWN bill. Glad Keshia dumped his ass.

Remember how KC used to treat Mary? Jeezy's career will not last long becasue he really is not that talented. GTFOH

GanstaChick281 said...

i love keyshia i know keyshia wasnt kno fool do u c da way she b talkin n interview bout rlationships she was smart n stupid jeezy iz a liar dats all

Tmommie3 said...

Man, please..........Keyshia's Cd fire! She has alot going for herself, she's makin money and has alot going for herself. Jeezy is not attrative at all, so it's not a lost for her...she's a career women.....this other woman is the stupid one....I have not even heard of her until now, Keyshia broke up with him, so now he brings this other girl to the forefront....whatever! Cuban chick is the stupid one.

bloggergirlz said...

Damn, bossip didn't waste no time reposting this story!

Bird said...

Well this is a perfect example of the statement I made in your cheating blog. Both of these women continued to see Jeezy despite his blantant disrespect of both of them and I can assure you that a man doesn't have to be a rapper or rich and famous for women to be willing to battle for him. I'm glad Keisha let him go and I hope that Mialy gets what she is looking for from the relationship sooner rather than later.

Crazy said...

A couple that smoke trees together, stays together. And its real evident Mialy's a puffer.

Sandra Rose said...

NyNy said...
He never made her the exclusive chick and if she was his girl he did not acknowledge her as his girlfriend. So how did Keyshia "seek" out someone that was taken????????????

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I don't mean you personally, but a woman would have to be really dumb not to know the man she's liking is seeing someone else. Even then, once Keyshia found out about Mialy - she still stayed in the relationship with Chevys. Why should Mialy leave? That's HER man that she's invested years in. Keyshia is the one who should move on and find a man who is more available to her.

Sandra Rose said...

Kpakpando said...
Sandra I wonder what your advice would be to Mialy and other women like her, who let their men run around in public with other women.

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Love is like a drug that you are addicted to. If you have put in years with that man the addiction is even stronger. Most women like Mialy know that women like Keyshia are broken and need fixing. Knowing that, it's easy to see a woman like Mialy waiting it out. These types of relationships (with unavailable men) are bound to fail because Keyshia is looking for something in unavailable men that doesn't exist. Now she will move on to the next unavailble man. It's a pattern.

Sandra Rose said...

@ Tmommie3:
How is Mialy stupid when she was there first? If you know that a man is just being a man so this will blow over AND you've put in years with the man - you will wait. But if the man is staying away from home for days at a time and is not paying the bills THEN you leave! Common sense.

NyNy said...

Again how was that Mialy's "man"??????????? Invested years as his "cuddy buddy" and he let her on the seen a few times does not qualify her as his "girlfriend". There are plenty of women that have been "cuddy buddies" and that does not make you the girlfriend because of years "invested"!!!!!! Keyshia fell for him found out about homegirl and let his ass go...so for you to label her is wrong. When clearly any women will know that Mialy was the "cuddy buddy" thinking she was the girlfriend. I know someone that works with Chevy and I know for a fact that this how this whole thing was going down. So your source should have gave you the whole story and not just her friends side of the story. Seems like Mialy is in the "jump off" box alone with the others that you have talked about on your site.

Carrie said...

"If you know that a man is just being a man so this will blow over AND you've put in years with the man - you will wait. But if the man is staying away from home for days at a time and is not paying the bills THEN you leave! Common sense."

Ummmmm no. How in the world are you gonna state that Keyshia is broken after condoning women staying with cheating ass men? Not only is not safe PHYSICALLY, it's not safe MENTALLY. That's not common sense, that's some sorry a** advice.

southerngyrl said...

Let me just say... JAY IS A FREAKIN DAWG!! KNOW IT FIRST HAND!! and PS.. MIALY WAS NOT I REPEAT, NOT THERE FIRST!! CHECK YOUR FACTS!! This BROAD.. GOLD DIGGER.. WAS NOT FIRST!!! She keeps staying because SHE KNOWS!! SHE WILL NEVER BE FIRST FOR REAL!! SHE WASNT FIRST WHEN HE STARTED BANGIN THIS CHICK!

Kpakpando said...

then why did you ride Kim Porter so hard? I mean she loved that man and put in years of work too, she was just letting Diddy get it out of his system because he was just being a man :p

Keyshia played herself with Jeezy, but seems like Mialy is still playing herself with him too. I mean so what if he takes you to parties and pays your bills? Is that all we should be looking for in relationships with men?

GanstaChick281 said...

y u jumoin on keyshia
keyshia aint stupid she prob knew
but keyshia iz a woman who iz bout dat paper
she aint got time thinkin jeezys cheatin azzz
keyshia prob dnt care 4 em no mo

bloggergirlz said...

@ noway:

No offense, but I’m sitting here scratching my head trying to figure what the hell you’re talking about. You can’t be serious making these statements.
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• fibroids and breast cancer?
• Don't act like a lady unless your treated like one
• I would have been throwing chairs and then paid my OWN bill.
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Here goes…

Fibroids and breast cancer …WTF???

Keyshia is a celebrity, she's a business(wo)man and this would’ve been all over the tabloids. I don’t envision her as being a punk, however she handled herself well. Even if she wasn’t a celebrity, what would’ve been accomplished by throwing a chair? Are you suggesting that she act a fool and this nicca isn’t even her husband? If a man treats you like a hoe, are you saying you should act like one? You shouldn’t let a man determine how the hell you should act. Based on the details Sandra provided in the story it’s obvious they knew about each other, therefore the run-in was inevitable (especially since Keyshia lives in ATL). His loyalty was determined when he jumped up from the table.

Licia said...

i thought jeezy was married ? anyway both women are crazy for allowing him to treat them in this way . i believe keyshia knew what was going on yet she stayed , but she got tired of playing second fiddle to the MAIN woman . as long as dude takes care of Mialy she's not gonna go anywhere and she is content with that .i wouldn't be surprised if Mialy has men on the side as well. yeah he was wrong for what he did , but they allowed it to happen. glad that keyshia didn't act a fool that night even though i believe she didn't act up only because she knew the situation. . she did better by just leaving him alone.

Bird said...

Sandra you are contradicting yourself he sorta. Initially you seemed cool with Kim Porter. Even told us she looked better in person, but after the interview with Sarah you seemed to jump ship from team Kim. Now you are excusing Mialy's actions or inactions. Jeezy is not her husband or even her boyfriend. He dated Keisha PUBLICLY.

Still I don't expect her to leave him and he will continue to disrespect her worse the Diddy did Kim because he doesn't acknowledge her as his woman.

2thick4u said...

Sandra Rose said...
How is Mialy stupid when she was there first? If you know that a man is just being a man so this will blow over AND you've put in years with the man - you will wait. But if the man is staying away from home for days at a time and is not paying the bills THEN you leave! Common sense.

Do you personally know Mialy? Is Jezzy taking care of home? The mindset that get so many people with deadly dieases, broken hearts and murdered is the notion that I will WAIT!!!

What the fuck are you WAITING FOR?!!!

If a person cares for you, they will make sure that you are taken care of mentally, physically and emotionally, not just financially.

P.S. Beyonce and Jay entrance will be very classy...only Bonnie and Clyde can pull it off!!!!

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aqtpie said...

If he is sleeping with Keyshia and other women, how is that HER man? More like hers and everyone elses. What makes her more special than Keyshia was? You know they were both getting money from him, spending time with him, and sexing him. Even though one has been dealing with this BS longer than the other one had to, I find what he gives/gave them to be equal. OOps I take that back, one was dumb enough to take this disrespect for years and the other was smart enough, to finally get out.

Jeezy has to be away from home days at a time because he's an artist. Maybe she should talk to Kim P., before she spends the next 6 years waiting for him to change. I mean hey diddy is in his late 30's and he is at the same mindset about faithfullness in his relationships as he was back when. I have relatives who are in their late 60's and have always been and will always be the same way as Diddy and Jeezy. So sometimes people don't change, and waiting for them to do so in 90% of these cases, is like waiting for a million dollars to fall in your lap from out of nowhere. He may be paying her bills but, I guarantee, she is not the ONLY female who's bills he pays

I aint mad at cha Jeezy, if you can find women with low enough self esteem, stupid enough to know they are just a cut buddy, or just don't give a damn and have no problem with you phucking other females; whether they have been in the picture 12 years or 12 minutes, I say do you!!!

I'd say to Keyshia, glad you got out and I'd tell Mialy get some counseling and know that you are toooo pretty to allow any man to treat you like this. Love is an addiction but it's not enough to make all cheaters go solo with one woman, nor is it enough to make a relationship work. On another note if she's fine with being one of many of Jeezy's girls, then hey do you too Mialy!!!!! My own sister n law wasted 9 years with my brother, only to come to the conclusion, it didn't matter if he was paying their bills or coming home every night, the fact remains that, he did not think enough of her to be faithful.

Sandra Rose said...

@ 2thick:
It's easy for you to say 'what are you waiting for?' When you are in a longterm commitment and your heart, soul and emotions are invested in someone, it is not that easy to leave. A lot of women won't admit that to themselves.

Weezys baby said...

Now this is too funny because I saw Jeezy and this Mialy character in club Miami together back in June on the 9th to be exact and we were all standing in VIP and next to me was this Mialy and Jeezy and while she was dancing up on him he was telling her how much he loved some girl. I automatically assumed it was Keyshia that he was talking about but by him talking to this Mialy person like that about the girl he loved I never thought that he would have been dating the Mialy person. This is too funny some things us women will go threw for a piece of a man. And Sandra this Mialy person is the one who needs therapy because why would you want someone who has someone that is crazy obviously she knew about Keyshia and if Keyshia came after her and during her time then Jeezy must didn’t really have any true love for this Milay character.

Africanqueen said...

It might not be easy to leave but we should be encouraging women to get out. Not telling them its ok since they were there first. Being there first doesnt mean anything. That ride or die mentality is so backwards.

No woman and i mean no woman should put with with this kind of mess. Its not easy but it has to be done.

As i have always said, we (women) are our greatest enemies.

Sandra Rose said...

@ Bay Area!!:
You must be a longtime regular reader because I did post this as a blind item last year over on Sandrarose.com :)

Sandra Rose said...

I suspect that most of you women who claim you wouldn't stay with him, probably don't have a man or have never been in a longterm relationship. When you're in love it is not that easy to just pack your things and go.

Kid Dajango said...

Sandra Rose said...
I suspect that most of you women who claim you wouldn't stay with him, probably don't have a man or have never been in a longterm relationship. When you're in love it is not that easy to just pack your things and go.
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Uh Oh! Here we go again....

2thick4u said...

Sandra I am 23 years old and I was with my middle school/high school/college boyfriend for 6 years. We went through it all. From losing our virginity to each other, going to school together, staying together, getting engaged.

When I found an email on his computer from a "friend" and he lied about it...I left.

To this day...2 years later...he still calls me weekly wanting to be back with me.

I refuse to allow any man the opportunity to break my heart. His ass will be 6 feet deep and I will be in jail...it is NOT WORTH IT!!!

There are to many selfish individuals out here that are walking around with AIDS and Herpes to be playing around.

I would rather be by myself before I allow bullshit to invade my life and give the DEVIL an opportunity to take my peace of mind!!!

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what? said...

Well I can actually say that I've been in a relationship with a man that I have two kids with for almost 10 years. He's been the same since the day I met him. I was one of those patient understanding dumb ass women who also invested years waiting for him to change and commit to being with one woman. I've finally come to my senses...he's a lost cause and will never change.
Mialy, you may be in love now but while you're waiting you're only letting time pass you by. Time wasted on a man that isn't worth it. Like Keyshia said...Let it Go!!!! Money isn't everything!!! I'd rather be happy and wealthy than miserable and rich!

Bay Area!! said...

Sandra Rose said...
@ Bay Area!!:
You must be a longtime regular reader because I did post this as a blind item last year over on Sandrarose.com :)
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U know it! I love blind items, but can't always figure them out...

D~ said...

Sandra Rose said

I suspect that most of you women who claim you wouldn't stay with him, probably don't have a man or have never been in a longterm relationship. When you're in love it is not that easy to just pack your things and go.
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So let me understand what you are saying Sandra,why do you assume that most women haven't been in a long term relationship or don't have a man just because they said they wouldn't tolerate that treatment? I can speak on this first hand, I was married for 10 years, had my suspicions about my ex's fidelity, the suspicsion were confirmed I left (all within 30 days)and now live here in Atlanta...I loved him from my core and still have love for him, but I refused to be disrespected by him or any man.It is that easy to pack up and go it just depends on the female.

For me my mental and physical health was more important to me then any party or any bills he paid.

How would you have handled this situation had you been either one of these ladies? Just curious.

Tasia said...

I suspect that most of you women who claim you wouldn't stay with him, probably don't have a man or have never been in a longterm relationship. When you're in love it is not that easy to just pack your things and go.

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I find this statement offensive for you to make a such a broad generalization. I have a man who I've been with for over a year and been in a previous relationship for over 4 years. Some women just need to realize that they should put themselves and their emotions first before some "dude”. For you to call Keyshia a jump off is insane based on the fact that it’s doubtful that old boy even told her about this so called "main chick". Mialy must be hurting in the pockets to stick around cause as for Keyshia she's already "Let Go" of dude and makes her own ends. What does Ms Mialy do as an occupation or how smart is she to stay despite how long she’s been around. Did he propose to her also?? Smh

what? said...

I know eveyone has heard the saying, "A man will only do what you allow them to". If Mialy continues on thinking she's number one and not caring that she's the only one, he will continue to do him. I swear men are so immature it's pathetic!

jae9598 said...

Im soooooooooooooooo glad to see u back Sandra! I cant tell u how many times I checked ur site yester to see if u were on an poppin!
THIS is what I'm used to reading when I come to ur site! Good read, thanks for the Juciness!

LovelyLady said...

SANDRA HOW CAN YOU MAKE THESE COMMENTS WHEN YOU BASHED KIM PORTER. SHE INVESTED 10 YEARS IN PUFFY.

Bird said...

Africanqueen said...
It might not be easy to leave but we should be encouraging women to get out. Not telling them its ok since they were there first. Being there first doesnt mean anything. That ride or die mentality is so backwards.
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Whoa whoa whoa!! It is really not up to anyone to tell Mialy what to do. I can guarentee that there will come a time when either she will get fed up with being publicly direspected or Jeezy will dump her OR his career will end and she won't want him anymore. In the mean time she is going to do what she wants to do no matter what anyone says.

tremaine said...

As salacious as it sounds, I doubt that one of Atlanta’s most popular rappers would openly date Keyshia Cole while holding on to this Mialy. Again, I have many well placed sources who would give me K&J spottings all around Atlanta. So if Mialy was his supposed girlfriend, wouldn’t he have been a lot more discreet. Men are often sloppy, but not that sloppy. Plus, if this Mialy was his “committed” girlfriend of THREE years, why are we not hearing about her until now?

A jump-off is someone who jumps on the d*ck, and then jumps off in the late night hours. You don’t propose to your jumpoff. You don’t have your jump-off hanging around you at public venues. And you for damn sure, don’t have them sitting in the front of your rehearsals time and time again. But it’s still a good gossip piece.

Carrie said...

"I suspect that most of you women who claim you wouldn't stay with him, probably don't have a man or have never been in a longterm relationship."

And some of us are married or are in long-term relationships. And some of us have been through similar situations. It's not easy to pick up and go, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't/can't be done. I would never advise someone to just let a man be a man and wait around for him to finish whoring while he's in a relationship.

I know you're gay but being with women shouldn't be that different for you not to understand that.

Bird said...

Awww shucky ducky. You done started some mess again Sandra. Bossip and SOHH have now picked up your story. It reminds me of the Sarah Chapman thing. Streetz at SOHH isn't buying it.

Shhhh said...

Well quite has it kept, Jeezy was messing with this big ole fat chick down in Houston, her name is Pooh. She's actually play sister and brother with Tre' from the Gorrila Mob. The chick Pooh is a baller chick though. I mean she's a real hustler, I'm talking about moving big weight. Before and a little short while after Jeezy would fly down to Houston regularly to be with her. That's real talk.

So Mialy has been getting played way before KC came into the picture.

Jesse said...

THREE WORDS

EARVIN "MAGIC" JOHNSON

SeXyY said...

Sandra you are right, I played the fool for many years, knowing everything that was going on, all I ever wanted to hear was to hear him say "it wasn't me! that bitch lying" it took me 7 years and 3 babies later to realize what was going on in my life, Love is one of the most amazing things a person will ever experience, but love is also the most painful thing a person will endure.

Just my opinion......

prprincess1577 said...

Sandra, how can you speak on a male/female relationship when you yourself are gay? (no offense)

I'm not disagreeing with you that when you are in love it's hard to just walk away, but it happens everyday by those that know they deserve better & are not insecure.

Kpakpando said...

Sandra, how are you going to say that? Being in love doesn't/shouldn't mean you stick out all bad behavior because its a man being a man, i mean isn't this the same mentality battered women have, because they loooove him? Uhm no! love yourself enough to leave his ass when he's with other women, and proudly too.
I don't necessarily believe that one act of infidelity should break a relations (read marriage) but they person has to somewhat repentant.

I think Mialy loves something, but its not herself or even him for that matter.


On another note, i love that the participants in your comment section behave like normal decent human beings instead of a pack of loose e-wolves.

Ms.Da-Ish said...

Sandra Rose said...
I suspect that most of you women who claim you wouldn't stay with him, probably don't have a man or have never been in a longterm relationship. When you're in love it is not that easy to just pack your things and go.

Sep 28, 2007 1:27:00 PM

This is true(not that it's right) I am in a situation like this. Me and my guy have been together for 10 years and I have been through all kinds of hell. I can not tell you how many times I have left or he has left and then we always get back together. I have never saw him in the act but I have heard things and I know that they are true, once confronted he has confessed. Do I think he doesn't love me? No. Do I think that he makes dumb ass decisions? Yes. I once described him as the sweetest poison running through my veins. Even if I confessed with my mouth how much I hated him, my heart would be singing a different tune. But I realized that I needed counseling and I received it. I hate that people automatically think that you have low self esteem when you stay in these situations. It's just simply loving someone. I feel for Keyshia and this Mialy chick. It has to hurt both of them if they were both "loving" this man

aqtpie said...

Sandra
Of course it's not going to be easy leaving someone who you have time and emotions invested with, whom you love with all of your heart and soul. The bottom line is you have to love yourself first. She wont be the first or the last one to have a broken heart if she left him, it happens every single day.

I've been in a long term relationship for years and the same way I know I would NEVER cheat on him, is the same way, I know I would never stay with him if he cheated. Of course I'd be an emotional wreck and I doubt, I'd ever be able to stop loving him but, I love me more. I do not expect anything from him that I am not willing to give back. I am faithfull and that is what I expect.

I'm not saying that the women who took a man back for cheating ONCE are stupid, I however feel different about the ones who know their man cheats continously and still allows him to do so, while having a problem with it.

Then again if she knows he is with other women can we really call this cheating? If she knew the deal is he tricking, fooling, or misleading her?
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aqtpie said...

@Sandra
LMBAO, you know you are soooooo wrong for posting his picture, in between them.

cherrise said...

I suspect that most of you women who claim you wouldn't stay with him, probably don't have a man or have never been in a longterm relationship. When you're in love it is not that easy to just pack your things and go.
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thank you sandra! sometimes i chuckle at your readers who think they are so perfect and strong at all times. Everyone is bound to go through it at least once, it's a part of growing up and knowing yourself and your boundaries. Sometimes you stay with someone, sit back, try to let them go through their changes, even though you may have strong suspicion that they're doing wrong.

And women need to admit that when a man is bringing home that bacon, it's even harder to walk away when you've put years into a relationship.but as I stated before, everyone is entitled to go through it ONCE maybe TWICE. But I think once this becomes a recurring pattern in your life, you have some serious soul searching and self healing to do.

what? said...

Who's to say that the story which came from one of Mialy's girls is the real true story. There are two sides to every story...this time it would be 3 sides. Of course her girl is going to make sure she (Mialy) comes out looking like the victim. Keyshia was mislead like a lot of us women...that doesn't mean she was wrong for falling for him. I'm sure he was telling her the same thing he's been telling Mialy for the past 3 or 4 years. Now that's a continuous pattern!

what? said...

@ Sexyy

That is so true! Love is very painful!

KAYLA said...

Keyshia aint going nowhere!! She was on Miss Jones in the Morning on 9-25-2007 and she stated that she hopes her relationship is not over....listen to the podcast.

bloggergirlz said...

@shhh:

Pooh will surely be in jail if it has anything to do with you LMAO!
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@tremaine:

Where are you from? Men do that type of shit all the time in Chicago! Okay, maybe not all the time, however I’ve seen it happen which is why this doesn’t surprise me.
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Why wouldn’t he date both of them at the same time? Guys will lie and downplay shit and before you know it your feeling are caught-up. Personally I feel it was some bold shit he was doing, but if you have willing participants, is it really bold? And to everyone who’s saluting Keyshia, if her ass wasn’t doing her “thing” she probably would’ve stuck around a bit longer. The so-called marriage proposal is questionable. Keyshia just droped an album and I’m sure the publicity helped. Real talk!

Sandra, what’s the difference between Kim/Sarah and Keyshia/Mialy? Do you feel Puffy was fair game since they supposedly met him at the same time? Even if Jeezy was dating Maily first, do you really think Keyshia was aware of their relationship in the beginning? The snowman is definitely a player.

Kpakpando said...

What definition of love do some people have? I've read, pain, hurt, addiction and deceit and I say what the flipping flip? What kind of love is that? It sounds like many of us were in love alone, and that's why we have such a warped sense of what love between two people is and should always be.

I was always taught and i firmly believe that love gives. This is not about materialism, but if someone actually loves you, I believe they will give their all, mind, body, soul and PENIS to you and you alone. Yes they're temptations in this world and occasionally people will be led astray, but someone cannot love you and be continually out and about.

I do agree with cherisse though, everyone does play a fool once or twice.

JWest said...

Sandra,

You SERIOUSLY have a hood rat mentality. Man just being a man? Let me tell you what a real man is, my fiance comes home to me each and every night. He takes care of home and will often sacrifice to make sure I have something I need. My father was the same way with my mom and his children. I'm assuming you never had a positive male role model in your life, which is why you think it's okay for men to treat you badly as long as they're paying the bills. That mentality is what is bring down black families across the US. We've picked up these unhealthy, materialistic habits from white people.

I respect Keyshia because at least she got herself out of that toxic relationship. Mialy is still sitting at home alone while Jeezy is not doubtingly out with numerous other girls. While you're talking about her being the "main girl" how do you know there's not some other girl out there he's been with longer? Men like this never change! Wake up ladies, men will only treat you as bad as you let them.

BTW, I was in a relationship like this for over 5 years but I grew up! Unlike these women I was a teen when I met him and I learned for the experience and refused to go there again. Too bad some other "women" never learn. With that type of thinking, you will find yourselves old and alone. Common sense!

Crystal said...

@2thick4u.......i decided not to comment on this subject because i dont want to do there but i agree with you a 100%..... and @shhhhh....Jeezy look like he like him a nice size 20 to 22 girl....

aqtpie said...

I want to know why some people think it's hard to believe there are women out there who would absolutely stand for NO cheating? How is this any different then women who will absolutely leave if a man hits them ONE TIME? IMO it's no difference, some women stay with cheating and/or abusive men and some women are out the door when either happens to them ONCE.

I'm not saying I'm better than someone else. Hell years back, I dated a drug dealer, there are plenty of women that would say they would never date one under any circumstances. Was I stupid for doing so? Hell yes, because I knew better. Would I do it again? No, because I learned that is not what I want.
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LMAO @ Pooh will surely be in jail if it has anything to do with you
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2bme said...

so keyshia pulled a kim and ran to the mags to put her story out first..made it seem like she was the one in control when in fact she wasn't..jeezy is..she's good for publicity..but when it came to he heart it's the one who has been down from day one..when will these women learn

zenisha said...

Sandra Rose said...
I suspect that most of you women who claim you wouldn't stay with him, probably don't have a man or have never been in a longterm relationship. When you're in love it is not that easy to just pack your things and go.

I've been in an 8 year relationship. And I promise you, if I found out that he was cheating, it would be a MotherF**king wrap. And I mean that. Yes it would hurt, but I deserve better. Not to mention the HEATH CONCERNS. If they knew about each other they are both dumb, but this Mialy chick is dumber. She might love him, but she's also there cause of the money. At least Kesiha don't need a man to pay her bills.

zenisha said...

aqtpie said...

I want to know why some people think it's hard to believe there are women out there who would absolutely stand for NO cheating? How is this any different then women who will absolutely leave if a man hits them ONE TIME? IMO it's no difference, some women stay with cheating and/or abusive men and some women are out the door when either happens to them ONCE.

Thank you. The women who say this are WEAK. And they want to lump everyone in the same weak ass category with them by saying "you would stay too" No I wouldn't, because I have too much respect for myself. You should get some.

Shhhh said...

Well Pooh is way bigger than a size 20-24. I don't know how big plus sizes go, but she's up there.

I didn't mean to put her out there like that, but hell it's true and anyboy from that H that is in the "in" crowd knows about that and who she is.

I lost my thoughts and didn't quite finish what I was saying, but b4 he became this "major" rapper or whatever, he would fly back and forth to the H from ATL to be with her, and she would do the same. They were really in a relationship. The chick has a really big plushed out house in the H, and Jeezy would be there posted up.

SRV said...

Sandra,
You should really stop doling out heterosexual love advice. You jump from one fence post to the next....First Kim is a G for sticking by Puffy, then Sarah's the G for handling her business. Tiny is a G for sticking by cheating ass TI. Now Mialy is a G for staying by Jeezy and Keyshia is the dumb one for believing that what they had was a real thing. Get over yourself and stick to the L word.

envynone said...

Divababy I gotta agree with you!! Bottom line: Keyshia is still growing and she LEFT. I think she learned something, we all have to experience painful things in order to GROW. Mialy, on the other hand, is STILL THERE, and probably will continue to be...it's her claim to fame. Yes, Young 'Whorish' Jeezy is HER claim to fame. If you have been with someone for 3 years and they have not presented you as the 'girlfriend'...they don't ride for you, represent for you, and hold you down like they love you: do like Keyshia said, "Let'em Go"...Keep it moving before you end up with more than a broken heart. I love it when Keyshia said "It's a dirty game"...because life can be a dirty game, when people use you up until they can't anymore, or until you play yourself until you don't even know what self esteem 'feels' like. But life is also beautiful, when you allow yourself to grow from certain experiences, and when you have the courage to remove yourself from things that may hinder your growth. Keyshia is the 'real' lady in all this, Mialy is the 'woman'....Keyshia has her own and doesn't need to ride someone's nut' sac to feel important. Chuuurch!

ladyalgebra said...

SORRY PEOPLE I HAVE TO GO THERE.>>>>Let IT Go has everything to do with JEezy, just like >>>drum roll>>>Ring The Alarm has everything to do with Rihanna and JayZ!

Danny said...

Nothing can happen to you unless you let it happen. Also it is your fault of how you let someone treat you, majority of the time people will do what they think they can get away with. If a man truly loves you and knows that if anything crazy is going down that she will be gone, he will think twice. If he doesn't it means one of two thinks 1. He doesn't love you or 2. He knows he can get away with it. That goes for women too. That is human nature, we tend to push our limits and when we get away with it we go futher. Sort of like the crime rate in America, the reason why we have so much crime is that majority of people think they can get away with it or beat the system one way or the other. In the middle east, if you get caught stealing, you hand is gone, no mercy. A woman get caught cheating, she will be sentenced to death by getting stoned. So there is hardly no crime.

The difference between men and women is that majority of men think logically and women think emotionally which lead to bad decisions most of the time. If you are emotionally needy you will fall for the okey doke because what ever makes you feel good at the time you go with.

Myshel said...

I've been reading your website for the last six months and you are brutally judgmental and nI have to say that because you never once talked about that anorexia ass monica and that dwarf Tiny. Lately you've taken the slack off Beyonce now you're attacking Keyshia Cole. My sis-ta where is the unity? I mean you are brutal! You're like the black klu klux klan when it comes to beligerent women. I guess you're perfect, flawless and no imperfections. Right? I don't think so you're probably so flawed it's pathethic! I feel sorry for women like Mialy that will settle or do anything for money. That;s why that nigga got up as soon Ms. Cole walked in had Mialy meant anything he would have sat his ass there go figure! Keyshia did the right think *fuck that roach looking negro* she has money to make.... her own money!

KnowWhatUSay said...

Sandra,

Hate to bust your bubble babe, but you know not what you speak and your source is not as close to Jeezy as you may think. Let me educate you. Mialy is a jump off. And if you really want to know who the girl is that Jeezy has been with for 4 years and is in love with and I KNOW FIRST HAND. She is a Super Cool Ass Chick lives in ATL and rolls solo most of the time around here. She is a hairstylist and works for a new fashion house as a product manager. She just moved back from LA and favors Mialy. She doesnt want Jeezy's money, has NEVER asked him for any, has her own ish, and Jeezy is ready for children. Lets just say you wont see her move out in the club scene too often. She is out every now and then and holds the rear very well. One hint her name starts with an "H".

And yes, Keshia knew about H from day one! But thought she could step over and that ish dont work when Jeezy decided she was a little to ghetto for him.

MzJonesClass08 said...

Sandra, this story seems like you're taking sides, instead of producing a real story. That's sad, cause I consider your site to be well above mediafakeout and others.
They just make $hit up cause it sounds good.

Wasn't Keyshia and Jeezy engaged? She was rockin' a ring for a little while.

Either way Mialy, was the 1st stupid one! Ain't no way in hell my boo gonna tell me the sky is purple, when it's blue. By that I mean, he was out in public with Keyshia.

Admit it Mialy knows her place and Jeezy knows she ain't going any time soon.

Plus, I know for fact he f%&k's other girls. I know somebody he caked for good lil' while.

TARIE said...

HI SANDRA,

I AM A VERY BIG FAN OF YOUR SITE AND I VISIT IT SEVERAL TIMES DAILY..LET ME JUST SAY THAT I LIVE IN MIAMI (SOUTH FLA.)ONE OF THE CITIES WHERES HIP HOP ARTISTS ALWAYS COME TO PARTY, AND J OR JEEZY AS MOST WOULD CALL HIM HAS JUMPOFFS DOWN HERE. ONE OF MY FRIENDS IN PARTICULAR.. I BEEN IN ATTENDANCE SEVERAL TIMES WITH THEM AND FOR THAT TIME BEING EVERYONE THERE SEEMED TO KNOW OF HER AS HIS GIRL.. PARTIES AND EVENTS ON SOUTH BEACH WE'RE THEIR, VIP STATUS, CLUBS HOTELS ON THE BEACH AND OTHER EVENTS. I'M NOT TELLING YOU THIS TO TRY AND RAIN ON ANYONES PARADE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THIS LIFE OUR HIP HOP ARTIST LEAD THERE IS ALWAYS GONNA BE JUMPOFFS, EVEN IF A RING IS INVOLVED. MY FRIENDS AND I ARE YOUNG LADIES WHO WORK AND ARE EDUCATED BUT WE ALSO LIKE THE FINER THINGS AND SOMETIMES THAT JUST SO HAPPEN TO BE GIVEN OUT BUY SOMEONE IN THE INDUSTRY. I THINK IF MOST OF THE WOMEN KNEW WHAT THEIR MEN WERE DOING HALF THE TIME, THEY WOULDN'T BE SO QUICK TO CALL THEMSELVES THEIR GIRLFRIENDS.

Andrea said...

Did Keyshia know about it or what?
Men need to get some self esteem and realize running around with as many women as possible doesnt make you a man. If the girls knew about each other, then they are equally retarded. But one is not worse than the other because they are both getting played. Jeezy is not cute any damn way so who cares. He loos like a bear.

Madam said...

Damn Lady Rose . . .at first glance I thought Keyshia was T-Boz in that photo.

ChocolatePrincess79 said...

Jeezy is playing this down real well...just like a man to "deny, deny, deny". He was on V103 lastnight since they were doing the live remote from his new 8732 clothing store on Auburn Avenue. The DJ asked if Keyshia Cole would be @ the club lastnight where his party was being held..and he said "I HOPE SO, I HOPE SO"..and the DJ went on to bring up the Essence article and Jeezy said "NO NO NO, for the last time she was not talking about me" LOL. He said people know that he is ladies man ..yada yada and be basically gave a shout out to all his lady friends".

Tmommie3 said...

to knowwhatusay.......Jeezy can't be that much in love with the hairstylist if he has women all over the place. Tell me....what do they see in the ninja turtle?

MizzCityofATL said...

I really don't know what to say about the whole Jeezy & Keyshia issue, the rumors r getting out of control to me. I never wanted to believe that both of them was together in the 1st place, but neither party is denying that they was never involved either. Keyshia's not really putting alot of info on who dude was. Jeezy not saying if he was with Keyshia either, but he did stated that she must be doing this for album sales since so many astist r releasing albums (according to another site). I'm like WHATEVER....and as far as this Mialy girl....This sound like some ish from a soap opera, but hey, it got my attention.

MiSSNoMANnOKiDs... said...

"ITS KINDA HARD TO BE DRUG FREE"

DOPE BOYS
MONEY
HOOD
MONEY
LIFE....

>YoU CAn eVen LeAVe yA NikeS ON<...

*YOU KNOW IM "EMOTIONAL"*...IM GLAD I RAN ACROSS THIS SITE CAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE EVERYDAY "PEOPLE" AND THEY ARE GOING OFF EMOTIONS....ITS VERY HARD FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN IN SOME SHHH LIKE THIS TO UNDERSTAND BUT LET ME TRY TO BREAK IT DOWN IT WAS A TIME IN EVERY WOMEN LIFE THAT THEY WANTED TO BE THEE ONLY 1 BUT WHEN THAT SHHH STARTED TO BACK FIRE NIG. BUCKIN AROUND NT DOIN WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO THEN THE GAME GOT MESSED UP AND WOMEN ARE MORE LIKE WELL I CAN DO THAT SHHH TOO BUT WHAT MOST OF US WOMEN FORGET IS THAT WE ARE VERY EMOTIONAL CREATURES WE CAN ONLY PRETEND 4SO LONG ALOT OF PRAYER AND FINDING YOUR TRUE SELF IS THE ONLY KEY....

ME PERSONALLY IT BECAME NORMAL TO BUCK WITH NIG. LIKE T.I.(LYIN ASS)....JEEZY..MEECH...JOC I CAN GO ON AND ON BUT ALL HOOD NIG. ARE MY THING TO GET FOR SOME REASON THATS WHAT I WAS ATTRACKIN' AND GETTIN WITH I MEAN THEY DROPPIN 50'STACKS....PAYIN CARS OFF THE LOT....SHOPPING SPREES...FREE TUITION...ALL THIS CAME AND STILL COMEIN' FOR A VERY LARGE PRICE...MY SELF RESPECT IF YOU LOOK AT ME YOU WOULD THINK DA*N SHE STR8 SHE WELL OFF BUT IN YOUR MIND YOU KNOW THIS NIG PLAYIN' YOU ITS FUNNY AT FIRST BUT THEN IT JUST AINT COOL NO MO!

IM TRYING MY BEST TO GETAWAY FROM SHOULD I SAY "THIS" NIG. CAUSE HE AINT MY NIG. GOTTA B-MAMA AND EVERYTHING...BUT THATS COOL WITH ME BECAUSE BASED ON PREVIOUS SITUATIONS HAVIN THAT NIG.PART TIME IS JUST RIGHT CAUSE I CANT TRUST HIM TO BE FULL TIME IN A WAY AFTER IVE LIVED LIKE THIS FOR SO LONG AGAIN IT BECOMES VERY NORMAL FOR HIM TO SAY HE GOING TO CAMP A HE BE BACK AT B LATER BECAUSE I WAS DOIN MY THANGG TOO BUT YOU CAN ONLY PRETEND FOR SO LONG....AND NIG. ARENT THE ONLY ONES BOGUS...GIRLS ARE TOO YEP YOU WOULD THINK AFTER A CHICK HAS GON' THROUGH SOOOOOOOOO MUCH A GIRL WONT BREAK HER HEART WELL WRONG...THEY BOGUS TOO...BUT ITS JUST NT SOMETHING PEOPLE CHOOSE TO DO IF THE SITUATION STR8 AND THEY FEELING RIGHT WHEN THEY ARE WITH U IN THEIR MIND(THE N***)THEY REALLY THINK HES ONLY WITH YOU OR YOUR WHAT HE WANTS CAUSE HE HAS SO MANY PEOPLE IN HIM....W R O N G...THESE NIG GOT SO MANY TYPES OF PERSONALITIES ITS A DAMN SHAME AND WHEN PEOPLE CALL IT SELFISH WHEN ITS REALLY IGNORANCE....

0 ALWAYS CAME BEFORE 1.....THERE WAS NOTHIN BETWEEN THAT SHH...BUT A BABY THATS WAHT HAPPENS MOST OF THE TIME SO ITS STARTS TO GET REALLY OUTTA ORDER AND THE NIG. DNT KNOW WHO HE WANTS TO BE DADDY OR BOO...KEYSHIA GON' BE STR8 SHE HAS SOOOO MANY FANS AND HER FAM....THIS IS EVERYDAY TO HER BUT FOR WOMEN WHO CANT FIND A BREAKTHROUGH PRAY ABOUT IT IT WONT HAPPEN OVER NITE SOON YOU WILL SEE A DIFF..AND LAUGH BACK AT THIS SHHHH I KNOW I AM....((AFTER READIN THIS IT EXPLAINS A LOT HOW MISS COLE WAS ACTIN AND THE 1ST SINGLE WELL I SUPPORT HER ))

*WHAT IT DO? WHAT THE BIZNESS IS? WORD ON THE STREET JEEZY KNOWN HANDLE HIS...B***H GET YA MIND RIGHT...B***H GET YA MIND RIGHT!!!*

I know said...

This comment comes from someone who knew Jeezy when he was Lil Jay from Macon. I have known him for almost 10 yrs. Jeezy only cares about Jeezy and I am so happy Keisha was able to walk away. Maylia needs to get out while she is ahead. No matter how much he tells you he loves you, he will never put you first. Respect it or check it baby, but I highly suggest you check it. It will save you a heartache. Take it from someone who knows.

MSREED2008 said...

keyshia could not be to hurt they was kicking it saturday nite at compound

Julie said...

Hi Sandra,

First and foremost I would like to convey that the title of your story should have been "Young Sleezy: A Tale of Many Women". I find it hysterical that Mialy would think that she is the only one having a relationship with Jeezy for the last 3 years. She is the biggest fool. Jeezy makes all his women/whores/girlfriends/buddies/bootiecalls/ sluts/etc. feel like they are his only girlfriend. I can tell you with proof that just like you Mialy are many other girls that have the same theory/perception and lifestyle that they are "Numero Uno" in Jay Jenkin's life or should I say for that "scumbag". Keysha has never admitted publicly that she is his girlfriend, in every interview she has gone out of her way to say they are friends.....so I suppose she is a bit smarter, recognizing that he truly does not care about anyone in particular....the man does not even love himself, his mama, his baby mama, so how can he love or care about anyone else. Perhaps Keysha understood that he messes around with everything he sees in a skirt. Sandra, if you truly did your research you could probably find out that there are a few women like Mialy out there that truly belief that Jeezy has been their boyfriend for three years. Trust me, there is nothing special about him, and I can promise you that three years ago when he started becoming a bit famous....because truly the man, excuse me the “boy” is more famous for all his nonsense; than true artistic abilities, and definitely not for being a great lay in the sack. Three years ago the boy could not even satisfy a virgin who is clueless as to what to expect sexually....and trust me that has not changed in the last few weeks....I speak from experience. Try ignoring him Mialy, and Keysha, trust me it works.... I will just give you one example...I had him call me about 129 times one evening, I usually stand him up or ignore him, and thus, have been giving him a full cup of his own medicine in the last three years. I decided to write this almost a month later, that I am calm and can laugh at the absurdity of foolish women....as you know a fool is someone who disregards and rebukes wisdom......So get off your "hoping- to -change him horse".....and realize that he is just, a has-been....excuse me, he has never been anybody anyway...a nobody that exploits women, and is only good to play head games with.....so maybe his low-self esteem would finally be on check. I have dumped his lazy, non-talented, dumb, famous want to be ass a few times and he always comes back crying like a little bitch, and for a taste of a real woman......that does not truly give a crap about him and treats him the way he deserves to be treated like garbage! So wise up and give your selves the place you deserve in life! If not then, one advice Mialy try satisfying that fool, maybe that will keep him away from other women I would even suggest try soul searching, following Keisha’s actions, therapy.....or better yet Jesus!

Tia said...

The story says sleeping together Not in a relationship. So the girl, isn't nothing you can sleep with someone and not be their girl, And as far as him leaving Keyshia at the table, for all she knew the other girl could have been anything, so the girl is the jump, off and he decided to make Keyshia his main.... Read the story, the sleep together for 3 years, not his chick of 3 years...